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Old June 3 2013, 12:30 PM   #46
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Old June 3 2013, 12:31 PM   #47
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Then you sir, are watching the wrong show.
No, I am watching the right one. Some of the anticipated scenes may not happen, but that's more than made up by sheer unpredictability of the show. This may be the best freaking TV series ever made.
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Old June 3 2013, 12:33 PM   #48
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DAMN YOU, BILLY IDOL! YOU KNEW ALL ALONG!

Outstanding episode. Out. Bloody. Standing.
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Old June 3 2013, 12:58 PM   #49
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After the show fucked up the Tyrion/Sansa wedding entirely last episode I had zero hope for the handing of the Red Wedding but it worked very well. Roose Bolton was the clear badass of this episode. One of my favourites in the books.

Glad to see Catelyn gone as she doesn't resemble her book counterpart at all.

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I have not read the books (nor do I intend to)
You really should. Show is good but the books are some of the best fantasy you'll ever read. They're a lot more morally grey and the tacky titillation is absent.
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Old June 3 2013, 01:00 PM   #50
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Re: Game of Thrones 3.9 - "The Rains of Castamere" - Rate and discuss

So, Richard Madden is free for Doctor Who, yes..?

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Old June 3 2013, 01:50 PM   #51
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The only thing that can make up for the Red Wedding, is Jeofry Lannister getting killed in an equally brutal way.


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Old June 3 2013, 01:58 PM   #52
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Are you kidding?

Jofrey is going to rape some corpses.

It's his birthday.
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Old June 3 2013, 02:05 PM   #53
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Are you kidding?

Jofrey is going to rape some corpses.

It's his birthday.
I wouldn't put it past him, the sadistic git that he is.
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Old June 3 2013, 02:16 PM   #54
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I am SO glad I haven't read the books. I'd have hated for that shock to be blunted by foreknowledge.
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Old June 3 2013, 02:39 PM   #55
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EW'S Game of Thrones "The Rains of Castamere" Interviews

http://insidetv.ew.com/2013/06/02/robb-stark-wedding/

http://insidetv.ew.com/2013/06/02/re...ing-interview/

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Old June 3 2013, 02:41 PM   #56
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That was devastating. Generally speaking the changes the show makes to the source material are problematic; the handling of the Robb/Catelyn storyline since the end of season one is the biggest example. But the invented stuff here-- Bolton and Catelyn, Arya and Grey Wind, Talisa-- was very visually effective. And gosh, Michelle Fairley is extraordinary. The failure to properly set up the Freys and the Boltons over the course of the season turns out not to matter much, at least on a visceral level.
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Old June 3 2013, 03:16 PM   #57
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Yeah, the set-up for this ep hasn't been all that good, but the execution itself? As close to perfect as they could get. I'm glad they were able to make me feel for Robb and Cat again before the end.
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Old June 3 2013, 03:23 PM   #58
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Not sure if I want to carry on watching this show anymore. Just seems like a waste of an entire season of their storyline to have such a brutal ending.

I'm not a fan of overly violent shows or movies, and I think this is enough for me.
Funny you said that - I told my partner exactly the same thing.

He has read the books and he has warned me there is still a lot more to come and not to expect bad things to happen to bad people. Even worse, he has hinted at the general "soap opera" nature of the series with storylines spinning out with nary a chance of resolution being possible.

I don't know what scares me more - more vile stuff happening to good people or AGoT becoming "Home and Away".

It all smacks to me of Martin being a sadist/attention whore who wants to just be all counter and shock his readers/audience - "Look at me! I can write a book where good DOES NOT triumph and evil sometimes wins!"


I wonder if this will affect the ratings for season four?
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Old June 3 2013, 03:28 PM   #59
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Stick to cookie cutter dumb shit like Star Trek Into Darkness if you want shallow clean cut battles of Good vs Evil where the ending of the story is obvious 5 minutes in. George RR Martin strives for a more realistic, unpredicable approach, without the line between good and evil being drawn. It's what makes the series so refreshing. My favourite characters are Melisandre, Jaime, Stannis and Roose. All of which have done atrocious things. It's the charm of the series.

Robb and Catelyn were nobody's favourites so I doubt anybody will quit watching. If they'd killed Tyrion, Jaime and Arya in the same scene then maybe
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Old June 3 2013, 03:36 PM   #60
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The Gendry leeches were kinda dumb. Though was that in 3x08? I watched the most recent 3 in a row tonight.
And yet, a highly significant and symbolic act that sets many things in motion...3 things to be precise...

I, too, marveled at the shocking nature of this episode, despite having read the books. Yes, the Robb/Talissa/Cat scenes were somewhat muddy leading up to the RW, but all seemed quickly rectified in the end, with the other inaccuracies all but forgotten. LOTS of people should be getting some awards for this one. Rated excellent...
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