RSS iconTwitter iconFacebook icon

The Trek BBS title image

The Trek BBS statistics

Threads: 141,375
Posts: 5,504,318
Members: 25,125
Currently online: 497
Newest member: Ted Dave

TrekToday headlines

New Abrams Project
By: T'Bonz on Dec 18

IDW Publishing March 2015 Comics
By: T'Bonz on Dec 17

Paramount Star Trek 3 Expectations
By: T'Bonz on Dec 17

Star Trek #39 Sneak Peek
By: T'Bonz on Dec 16

Star Trek 3 Potential Director Shortlist
By: T'Bonz on Dec 16

Official Starships Collection Update
By: T'Bonz on Dec 15

Retro Review: Prodigal Daughter
By: Michelle on Dec 13

Sindicate Lager To Debut In The US Next Week
By: T'Bonz on Dec 12

Rumor Mill: Saldana Gives Birth
By: T'Bonz on Dec 12

New Line of Anovos Enterprise Uniforms
By: T'Bonz on Dec 11


Welcome! The Trek BBS is the number one place to chat about Star Trek with like-minded fans. Please login to see our full range of forums as well as the ability to send and receive private messages, track your favourite topics and of course join in the discussions.

If you are a new visitor, join us for free. If you are an existing member please login below. Note: for members who joined under our old messageboard system, please login with your display name not your login name.


Go Back   The Trek BBS > Star Trek TV Series > The Next Generation

The Next Generation All Good Things come to an end...but not here.

Reply
 
Thread Tools
Old June 2 2013, 05:22 PM   #16
Gaith
Rear Admiral
 
Gaith's Avatar
 
Location: Washington, DC
Re: Does Reginald Barclay have social anxiety disorder and/or Asperger

Reg is charismatic and charming as well as shy and introverted, which generally makes for an interesting performance. That said, the depths of his neuroses just aren't credible for someone living in a utopia like Trek's. For one thing, it's hard to imagine any kind of military officer being that awkward and bumbling, but I'll even put that aside. I'm an introvert and a quiet guy myself, but Reg needs professional help so obviously that I simply don't buy he wouldn't have gotten it long before his TNG days.

I enjoy and like the character, but he always takes me out of the given ep to a degree. Harry Kim was a more believable wimp for the setting - somewhat awkward and not particularly popular, but not a social catastrophe with legs.
Gaith is offline   Reply With Quote
Old June 2 2013, 05:40 PM   #17
MacLeod
Admiral
 
Location: Great Britain
Re: Does Reginald Barclay have social anxiety disorder and/or Asperger

Wasn't he realtively new to the Enterprise in his first apperance? If his character traits weren't impacting on his ability to do his job what's the problem. It's only when they impacted on his ability to perform his duties that they became a problem which need addressing.
__________________
On the continent of wild endeavour in the mountains of solace and solitude there stood the citadel of the time lords, the oldest and most mighty race in the universe looking down on the galaxies below sworn never to interfere only to watch.
MacLeod is online now   Reply With Quote
Old June 3 2013, 05:13 AM   #18
throwback
Captain
 
Re: Does Reginald Barclay have social anxiety disorder and/or Asperger

Though the crew treated badly, I do find it assuring that Captain Picard chose to keep Lt. Barclay on his ship rather than transfer him to another ship, which carried with it the implication that Captain Gleason had done just that thing. I would think this might have an influence on how the lieutenant views himself knowing that one crew has rejected him.

And, I like it that Geordi LaForge and Deanna Troi kept in touch with him after he had left the Enterprise. I feel Voyager did right with Barclay.

I don't think it's possible to diagnose Barclay's condition. From what I have seen, in movies and tv shows, the people who write scripts are for the most part ignorant of mental disabilities and mental illnesses. When they do reveal knowledge of these two, it comes off as superficial and flawed.
throwback is offline   Reply With Quote
Old June 3 2013, 08:33 PM   #19
Gaith
Rear Admiral
 
Gaith's Avatar
 
Location: Washington, DC
Re: Does Reginald Barclay have social anxiety disorder and/or Asperger

MacLeod wrote: View Post
Wasn't he realtively new to the Enterprise in his first apperance? If his character traits weren't impacting on his ability to do his job what's the problem. It's only when they impacted on his ability to perform his duties that they became a problem which need addressing.
What about family? Childhood friends? Academy classmates? Fellow officers? Professional mentors? All of these should have been able to point him in the direction of counseling long before he got to the Enterprise.
Gaith is offline   Reply With Quote
Old June 4 2013, 02:50 AM   #20
throwback
Captain
 
Re: Does Reginald Barclay have social anxiety disorder and/or Asperger

There was a brief mention in "Hollow Pursuits" that Barclay's "seclusive tendencies" were noted more than once by people at the Academy.
throwback is offline   Reply With Quote
Old June 4 2013, 06:40 AM   #21
_C_
Commander
 
_C_'s Avatar
 
Location: _C_
Re: Does Reginald Barclay have social anxiety disorder and/or Asperger

It's pretty clear he's a hypochondriac, and I can totally identify with that. I think that's why I like the episode "Realm of Fear" a little too much. Because I've been in situations where I thought I had some fatal condition for days at a time. It sucks!
__________________
_C_ is offline   Reply With Quote
Old June 4 2013, 06:50 AM   #22
Third Nacelle
Captain
 
Third Nacelle's Avatar
 
Location: The Denorios Belt
Re: Does Reginald Barclay have social anxiety disorder and/or Asperger

I just think he has some mild social anxiety/awkwardness.

Transporter phobia is something I can understand, and Barclay's not alone in that. McCoy and Pulaski hated the thing too.

And if holodecks actually existed, I'm sure holoaddiction would be a major, major social problem, but not indicative of greater mental illness on the addict.

I think Barclay's biggest problem was that he was a very intelligent, but otherwise average guy stuck on a ship full of near-perfect people.
Third Nacelle is offline   Reply With Quote
Old June 4 2013, 10:42 PM   #23
I am not Spock
Commodore
 
Location: Australia
Re: Does Reginald Barclay have social anxiety disorder and/or Asperger

throwback wrote: View Post
Though the crew treated badly, I do find it assuring that Captain Picard chose to keep Lt. Barclay on his ship rather than transfer him to another ship, which carried with it the implication that Captain Gleason had done just that thing. I would think this might have an influence on how the lieutenant views himself knowing that one crew has rejected him.

And, I like it that Geordi LaForge and Deanna Troi kept in touch with him after he had left the Enterprise. I feel Voyager did right with Barclay.

I don't think it's possible to diagnose Barclay's condition. From what I have seen, in movies and tv shows, the people who write scripts are for the most part ignorant of mental disabilities and mental illnesses. When they do reveal knowledge of these two, it comes off as superficial and flawed.
That's a good point about Picard. He was the most fair to Barclay in that episode, I think. Guinan as well. La Forge and Riker were a bit mean to him in Hollow Pursuits.

As I said above, I can relate to the character, but obviously I'm not a genius engineer.

TV writers often get mental conditions wrong, true. One positive and popular Aspie character in recent memory is Sheldon Cooper on the Big Bang Theory (the writers deny he has it, but he screams it to me, and to many others, and I have AS myself)

Barclay probably just has severe social phobia
__________________
It's a FAAAAKKKEEE!
Senator Vreenak- In the Pale Moonlight
I am not Spock is offline   Reply With Quote
Old June 5 2013, 06:25 PM   #24
_C_
Commander
 
_C_'s Avatar
 
Location: _C_
Re: Does Reginald Barclay have social anxiety disorder and/or Asperger

Barclay was probably that awkward kid everybody picked on and it's left him with low self esteem issues. Wouldn't surprise me at ALL if he had to deal with a ton of bullying most of his life and career. Maybe he never spoke up because either nobody bothered to do anything about it or he was too afraid to make waves and make things worse for himself.

I may or may not be speaking from personal experience. >>;;
__________________
_C_ is offline   Reply With Quote
Old June 6 2013, 09:33 AM   #25
I am not Spock
Commodore
 
Location: Australia
Re: Does Reginald Barclay have social anxiety disorder and/or Asperger

_C_ wrote: View Post
Barclay was probably that awkward kid everybody picked on and it's left him with low self esteem issues. Wouldn't surprise me at ALL if he had to deal with a ton of bullying most of his life and career. Maybe he never spoke up because either nobody bothered to do anything about it or he was too afraid to make waves and make things worse for himself.

I may or may not be speaking from personal experience. >>;;
Yeah. It was a bit sad to see that in the enlightened 24th century, there was still people who got made fun of and excluded.

Picard and Guinan seemed fair to him. And he did get accepted later on. Deanna coming to check on him when he reappeared in Voyager.
__________________
It's a FAAAAKKKEEE!
Senator Vreenak- In the Pale Moonlight
I am not Spock is offline   Reply With Quote
Old June 7 2013, 12:16 AM   #26
BennieGamali
Lieutenant Commander
 
BennieGamali's Avatar
 
Location: Norway.
Re: Does Reginald Barclay have social anxiety disorder and/or Asperger

Barclay struck me as a little more than just shy. He was strange. He had a holodeck program full of people he knew. I'm not certain, but I do not think that is completely normal. (ofc it's not normal because holodecks do not excist but you know what I mean) He also lied and didn't do things he was supposed to do. (something people do all the time, but not like he did) Not sure if I would say he had a dissorder or anything. But he's not just shy. He is a bit odd. Just imagine walking into someone's holodeck program and there you are. Dressed as a damsel in distress or some foolish knight with a silly mustache, and there comes Broccoli to save the day. I would be creeped out...

All that being said. He is a great character and sweet in a weird way.
And the actor is just awesome. Murdock from the A-team! And he plays a Murdock in Baby5. Ehehe
__________________
"I've seen things you people wouldn't believe. Attack ships on fire off the shoulder of Orion. I watched c-beams glitter in the dark near the Tannhäuser Gate. All those moments will be lost in time, like tears in rain." - Roy Batty
BennieGamali is offline   Reply With Quote
Old June 12 2013, 09:54 PM   #27
DalekJim
Fleet Captain
 
DalekJim's Avatar
 
Location: Great Britain
Re: Does Reginald Barclay have social anxiety disorder and/or Asperger

As somebody that "suffers" from said disorders (I'm kinda accepting of my aspergers, anxiety has crippled my life though!), I wouldn't be surprised if Barclay had them but I doubt it's intentional. Just the geek archetype, which often fits in with these disorders.

Love Barclay, one of the most relatable Star Trek characters to me.
DalekJim is offline   Reply With Quote
Old June 12 2013, 10:24 PM   #28
MacLeod
Admiral
 
Location: Great Britain
Re: Does Reginald Barclay have social anxiety disorder and/or Asperger

_C_ wrote: View Post
Barclay was probably that awkward kid everybody picked on and it's left him with low self esteem issues. Wouldn't surprise me at ALL if he had to deal with a ton of bullying most of his life and career. Maybe he never spoke up because either nobody bothered to do anything about it or he was too afraid to make waves and make things worse for himself.

I may or may not be speaking from personal experience. >>;;

True, he appeared to suffer from at least self esteem and/or self confidence issues. And if you suffer from them or have suffered from for long periods of times you know how they can impact on your life.
__________________
On the continent of wild endeavour in the mountains of solace and solitude there stood the citadel of the time lords, the oldest and most mighty race in the universe looking down on the galaxies below sworn never to interfere only to watch.
MacLeod is online now   Reply With Quote
Old June 13 2013, 06:21 AM   #29
robau
Lieutenant Commander
 
robau's Avatar
 
Re: Does Reginald Barclay have social anxiety disorder and/or Asperger

I love that the blind dude made fun of the awkward dude.
robau is offline   Reply With Quote
Old June 19 2013, 12:23 AM   #30
Gaith
Rear Admiral
 
Gaith's Avatar
 
Location: Washington, DC
Re: Does Reginald Barclay have social anxiety disorder and/or Asperger

^ You wouldn't call Geordi blind if you could see what he could.
Gaith is offline   Reply With Quote
Reply

Bookmarks

Thread Tools

Posting Rules
You may not post new threads
You may not post replies
You may not post attachments
You may not edit your posts

BB code is On
Smilies are On
[IMG] code is On
HTML code is Off

Forum Jump



All times are GMT +1. The time now is 02:03 PM.

Powered by vBulletin® Version 3.8.6
Copyright ©2000 - 2014, Jelsoft Enterprises Ltd.
FireFox 2+ or Internet Explorer 7+ highly recommended.