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Old June 2 2013, 06:37 PM   #166
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Re: STAR TREK: a series treatment starring APRIL and COLT

I read most of your "pitch"... Questions have been raised...

You keep mentioning "terms." Do you mean seasons?

Why would CBS want to shoot in Michigan? It would probably cost them more to set up production there for an ongoing TV series. Also, assuming you can do everything you say you can here, and the actors would really want to do this, why would Felicia Day and Stephen Fry want to move to Michigan for long periods of time to shoot?

Why do the timelines need to be rectified? I'm not entirely sure I get the need. As others have said, the timelines stand apart on their own. The point of the new films is to get away from 40 years of continuity to tell new stories. Paramount and CBS would likely have no interest in any connection to the old timeline as it has proven to be unprofitable in airing a new TV series.

Why a comedy? For that matter, where's the funny? I see very little that makes me laugh in the characters or brief synopses you've listed.

These are just the tip of the iceberg here of questions I could ask. Overall, it's a nugget of an idea and needs to be fleshed out considerably before anyone would take it seriously. Not trying to be mean, but back to the drawing board...
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Old June 2 2013, 09:26 PM   #167
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Re: STAR TREK: a series treatment starring APRIL and COLT

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show me yours, or show me one better, Buzzkill.
I wonder what the one better is


Though "Tin Man" was a good episode.
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Old June 2 2013, 09:45 PM   #168
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Re: STAR TREK: a series treatment starring APRIL and COLT

I think we should have left Admiral Buzzkill speak to his own credits if he was so inclined.

Anyway, it appears the OP has moved on.
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Old June 2 2013, 10:21 PM   #169
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I think we should have left Admiral Buzzkill speak to his own credits if he was so inclined.
Agreed.
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Old June 2 2013, 11:26 PM   #170
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Re: STAR TREK: a series treatment starring APRIL and COLT

I don't get it. Yeoman Colt's actress was 22 when The Cage was filmed. Assuming the character is the same age in 2254, that would make her 13 in 2245 when Enterprise is launched in the Prime timeline. For a series with the intent of reconciling stuff, that seems a bit far-fetched.
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Old June 2 2013, 11:28 PM   #171
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Re: STAR TREK: a series treatment starring APRIL and COLT

I read most of the "treatment" before I got lost.

I'll tell you up front: I don't know a damn thing about selling a series, or writing a script, or dealing with tv executives, but I do know what I like to watch. I don't think this is it.

What I read, in my ignorance, was way too long and much too repetitive. I don't care who you want to bring in later or how you're going to reconcile timelines. If I were being pitched, I'd want something that grabs my attention and knocks my socks off. Or at least makes me pull my socks back up. If the pitch, or "treatment" held my interest enough to pursue it, I want to know what happens in the first 13. Anything after that is up in the air--in other words, a waste of effort.

If your treatment sells, they will hire or assign a group of writers. Don't count on being one of them, much less being the showrunner. When you sell your idea, you lose control over it unless you have some real leverage. From what I've read in this thread, you don't.

The experience I have in entertainment is a whole 'nother area, and I know for sure that you don't put your ideas out there unless you own the copyright and can prove it. Pitching to industry execs is dicey at best. They want to see what you've done before. They want to know that if they put their money on you that you can deliver the goods. They for damn sure won't give you the keys to the house unless they know you won't run off with the good china.

As Joe Q. Viewer, the premise strikes me as weird. Star Trek as a half hour "workplace comedy" doesn't do it for me. I'd try to watch the pilot, but if it didn't knock it out of the park by the first break I'd be on to something else.

Something else ... if you want the movie cast, even for cameos, you'd better have one hell of a budget. These kids are movie stars now and they won't do a show for TV money. Just hide and watch.

Another thing: I wouldn't brag about my experience as a lobbyist. The general public has a less than favorable view of lobbyists in general, and certain ones in particular.

I'm sorry if you don't like what you're reading here, but if you want to make it in entertainment you'd better toughen up now. There's a ton of rejection in your future. That's not a dig, it's a fact of life. Show biz execs don't care who you know or how good you think you are. They're in it for the bottom line.

Show biz is hard. You have to be confident, as you obviously are, but you also have to expect to have that confidence crushed on a daily basis.
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Old June 3 2013, 02:13 PM   #172
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Re: STAR TREK: a series treatment starring APRIL and COLT

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I think we should have left Admiral Buzzkill speak to his own credits if he was so inclined.

Anyway, it appears the OP has moved on.
He's probably rolling in money and Emmys.
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Old June 4 2013, 01:41 AM   #173
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Squiggy wrote: View Post
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I think we should have left Admiral Buzzkill speak to his own credits if he was so inclined.

Anyway, it appears the OP has moved on.
He's probably rolling in money and Emmys.
OW. Emmys have those pointed wing things.
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Old June 4 2013, 04:39 AM   #174
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Re: STAR TREK: a series treatment starring APRIL and COLT

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change the channel if it's on the tv. go ahead. to what?
The Walking Dead? Breaking Bad? Mad Men? Justified? Game of Thrones? Boardwalk Empire? Sons of Anarchy? American Horror Story? There's a full on Golden Age of television going on, and nothing I saw in your pitch looks to compare with those deep, character driven shows.
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Old June 7 2013, 05:16 PM   #175
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Re: STAR TREK: a series treatment starring APRIL and COLT

How many months or years should we give Zekkie before we can safely assume that his attempt failed ?
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Old June 7 2013, 05:27 PM   #176
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To be blunt: it's not going anywhere. We can already safely assume it's not going to happen. NONE of the proposals that will appear on the BBS will go anywhere.
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Old June 7 2013, 05:55 PM   #177
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^^^Especially when they're as fan-wank as this, being posted in public aside.
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Old June 7 2013, 06:49 PM   #178
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Re: STAR TREK: a series treatment starring APRIL and COLT

I was being sarcastic. Of course it's not going anywhere. Zekkie is in for a major dissapointment. Which is unfortunate because he does seem enthousiastic about it.
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Old June 7 2013, 07:19 PM   #179
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How many months or years should we give Zekkie before we can safely assume that his attempt failed ?
About as long as for Whettestone.

Okay, not that long.
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Old June 16 2013, 09:39 PM   #180
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Re: STAR TREK: a series treatment starring APRIL and COLT

As a fan, I want to see good more than either timeline, and this treatment just doesn't strike me as doing that. I don't like the format or the premise. I'm more interested in Star Trek Begins than this idea.
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