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Old June 2 2013, 05:39 AM   #106
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Re: Matt Smith's Departure Confirmed.

Elba has been thrown around so much the last few years but while the man is a fantastic dramatic actor I've yet to see anything to suggest he would suit the Doctor. Seems like he is just tossed out as the one well known and talented black British actor.

Not only do I think he isn't particularly well suited to the role, but I doubt he would take it as he already has an established and consistent TV and film career.

Most of the fan favorites are just as unlikely for similar reasons.

If you want to do some affirmative action casting though, why not consider a few other names?

Chiwetel Ejiofor
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Old June 2 2013, 06:49 AM   #107
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Re: Matt Smith's Departure Confirmed.

Matt Smith is my favorite actor in the role and I'm sad to see him go.

I hope when he leaves, we get another young, unknown actor, but I guess now would be the time to go for someone a little more famous.
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Old June 2 2013, 07:04 AM   #108
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Good - couldn't stand him and he's a big part of why I stopped watching.

He is an ugly skinny bugger who looks like a young version of Odo.


Bring on an older Doctor Who like Tom Baker or Jon Pertwee,
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Old June 2 2013, 07:34 AM   #109
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Goodbye, Matt. And at just the right time. Close to wearing out his welcome.
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Old June 2 2013, 07:40 AM   #110
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Enough with the Chiwitel Ejifor/Idris Elba stuff. I wouldn't cast a black actor, simply because of that bloody academic paper.

And a female Doctor would be weird. Sorry of I seem sexist and racist, but no. You wouln't get either of those guys or Tilda Swinton, they'd want too much money.

That said... Lenny Henry might be interesting. And Lara Pulver (Irene Adler, 'Sherlock') would be good if she could bring that same energy to the show.

Was chatting with a chap at my bookclub meeting yesterday. We bemoaned the downturn in the quality of recent Who, and he had an interesting take: that they are trying way too hard to appeal to the US market, to rake in even more dollars. The show has definitely changed, there's something missing. And if this is correct, they won't change the Doctor from being a white male, not wanting to rock the boat.
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Old June 2 2013, 08:25 AM   #111
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Enough with the Chiwitel Ejifor/Idris Elba stuff. I wouldn't cast a black actor, simply because of that bloody academic paper.
Fuck that paper. Seriously, no one should even acknowledge such rubbish.

At the end of the day, Moffat and company should pick whichever actor who is best suited for the role.
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Old June 2 2013, 08:28 AM   #112
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Re: Matt Smith's Departure Confirmed.

I'm holding onto hope its some sort of Moff-esque viral publicity stunt, but after seeing the statement from Moff last night, I'm not too sure.

But, I just, just, can't take it. Smith has made the bad eps watchable. Tennants departure never hit me like the news last night. Smith is now my doctor and I want at least one more season. Thought we already did. But, from an actor standpoint I can see why, but, why, damnit?!

He has said in many interviews he was going to be filming season 8.


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Old June 2 2013, 08:38 AM   #113
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Re: Matt Smith's Departure Confirmed.

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Was chatting with a chap at my bookclub meeting yesterday. We bemoaned the downturn in the quality of recent Who, and he had an interesting take: that they are trying way too hard to appeal to the US market, to rake in even more dollars. The show has definitely changed, there's something missing. And if this is correct, they won't change the Doctor from being a white male, not wanting to rock the boat.
The current trend in what appeals to the American scripted TV audience is quality character-driven writing. Plot-driven still has its place in procedurals, but even they are much more character-focused than even a decade ago.

The downturn in quality(or rather, inconsistence) is due to a distracted showrunner who has been recycling his favorite tropes for most of his tenure and feels that plots can be resolved with the dramatic equivalent of technobabble.
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Old June 2 2013, 08:41 AM   #114
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Since Clara stepped into the Doctors timestream, and already exists in pretty much every part of it, she isn't like most humans. The point is, doesn't this connection give her something that would allow her to survive the thing that would have caused Donna to burn up, had the Doctor not wiped her mind? Mightn't a "Doctor Clara" be possible?

Think... Doc is mortally wounded, and needs to regenerate, but isn't sure how many, if any, regenerations he might have left. Fearing he might not have enough energy for a full regeneration, he reaches out to Clara, who is also wounded, and might not survive without a miracle. And the Doctor kinda saves both of them, by redirecting his regeneration energy into Clara. He has just enough regeneration energy to repair her wounds, and to fully integrate their minds. She awakes, with "The Doctor" fully integrated into her own mind, which is now also fully aware of its various incarnations as The Impossible Girl. She becomes the Doctor, and is still, in a sense, the REAL Doctor, as he is now a very real part of her. (Maybe the integration isn't perfect, so she can get into an occasional humorous argument with herself?)
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Old June 2 2013, 08:52 AM   #115
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Clara is already the Doctor.

The Impossible Girl he rescued from his mind was a conflation of Clara shards built from his memories.
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Old June 2 2013, 09:12 AM   #116
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Damn. i'll miss him. Looking forward to the new Doctor...
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Old June 2 2013, 09:17 AM   #117
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Clara is already the Doctor.

The Impossible Girl he rescued from his mind was a conflation of Clara shards built from his memories.
But his memories are made of Amy's memories. So Amy is the Doctor.
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Old June 2 2013, 09:24 AM   #118
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Inevitable, but still - this is too bad. After all the quite pathetic (over)reaction to his casting, Smith turned out to be quite brilliant (and a welcome contrast to the insufferable Tennant, who made the show completely unwatchable for me). Hopefully the new person will be as enjoyable in the role, and hopefully Clara will depart the scent with Smith.

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He's the only one of the New Who Doctors to faithfuly resemble the one of the classic series.
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Old June 2 2013, 09:26 AM   #119
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Was chatting with a chap at my bookclub meeting yesterday. We bemoaned the downturn in the quality of recent Who, and he had an interesting take: that they are trying way too hard to appeal to the US market, to rake in even more dollars. The show has definitely changed, there's something missing.
What a bunch of crap. "Gotta dumb down the show and make it flashy for those Yanks!"

You've got to be kidding me. From 2005 to now the show has basically been the same. The only thing I've noticed is evolution. It's never lost its quirky British style. And it has never been high, award-winning drama -- either now or in the Classic era (from the 3rd, 4th, and 5th Doctor stories I've seen). I swear, some of you guys have a high-prescription pair of rose tinted glasses when it comes to Who.

Yes, everything went to hell when it became a success here. Right.
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Old June 2 2013, 09:44 AM   #120
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I've been watching a lot of old Tennant episodes recently, I think I really miss the 2 and even 3 parters from the RTD era.

Some of the episodes feel too constrained by making them fit into 1 episode.

I like Matt Smith but I'll be happy to see Who's next in the role.
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