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Old June 1 2013, 02:43 PM   #136
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Re: Updating FJ's technical manual?

I'm opposed to "updating" the Tech Manual in ways that many describe: lifting stuff that, by arbitrary criteria, is "good" and replacing stuff that, by arbitrary criteria, is "bad." The Tech Manual is one person's interpretation and extrapolation of a world very vaguely suggested in a TV show. I'm all for seeing other people's takes on the same topic, but don't "create" one by hacking someone else's. If you think you can do better, then do it, but make it entirely yours, and not a half-Frankensteined and thus half-hearted effort. I look forward to reading and quite possibly liking your take, too.
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Old June 1 2013, 03:10 PM   #137
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I'm opposed to "updating" the Tech Manual in ways that many describe: lifting stuff that, by arbitrary criteria, is "good" and replacing stuff that, by arbitrary criteria, is "bad." The Tech Manual is one person's interpretation and extrapolation of a world very vaguely suggested in a TV show. I'm all for seeing other people's takes on the same topic, but don't "create" one by hacking someone else's. If you think you can do better, then do it, but make it entirely yours, and not a half-Frankensteined and thus half-hearted effort. I look forward to reading and quite possibly liking your take, too.
Well in truth no one can replace the original. It will always be there.
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Old June 1 2013, 04:42 PM   #138
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Re: Updating FJ's technical manual?

FalTorPan wrote: View Post
I'm opposed to "updating" the Tech Manual in ways that many describe: lifting stuff that, by arbitrary criteria, is "good" and replacing stuff that, by arbitrary criteria, is "bad." The Tech Manual is one person's interpretation and extrapolation of a world very vaguely suggested in a TV show. I'm all for seeing other people's takes on the same topic, but don't "create" one by hacking someone else's. If you think you can do better, then do it, but make it entirely yours, and not a half-Frankensteined and thus half-hearted effort. I look forward to reading and quite possibly liking your take, too.
Well said! If it is to be donem, than start from scratch and the source material (i.e. the actual episodes). Let the FJTM be the FJTM, and begin again.
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Old June 1 2013, 05:17 PM   #139
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I'm opposed to "updating" the Tech Manual in ways that many describe: lifting stuff that, by arbitrary criteria, is "good" and replacing stuff that, by arbitrary criteria, is "bad." The Tech Manual is one person's interpretation and extrapolation of a world very vaguely suggested in a TV show. I'm all for seeing other people's takes on the same topic, but don't "create" one by hacking someone else's. If you think you can do better, then do it, but make it entirely yours, and not a half-Frankensteined and thus half-hearted effort. I look forward to reading and quite possibly liking your take, too.
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I didn't mean to imply otherwise.
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Old June 1 2013, 08:18 PM   #140
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The more manuals the better.
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Old June 1 2013, 10:33 PM   #141
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FalTorPan wrote: View Post
I'm opposed to "updating" the Tech Manual in ways that many describe: lifting stuff that, by arbitrary criteria, is "good" and replacing stuff that, by arbitrary criteria, is "bad." The Tech Manual is one person's interpretation and extrapolation of a world very vaguely suggested in a TV show. I'm all for seeing other people's takes on the same topic, but don't "create" one by hacking someone else's. If you think you can do better, then do it, but make it entirely yours, and not a half-Frankensteined and thus half-hearted effort. I look forward to reading and quite possibly liking your take, too.
I essentially agree, but as I said a ways back, a respectful tweaking of FJ’s manual can be done which need not be based on any arbitrary criteria or involve subjective notions deemed either “good” or “bad”.

What I propose in this regard is to deal only with those things he left out or clearly got wrong. IOW’s, we may not in all cases know why he did what he did, or if it was by accident or design (the subjective part), but we can know what to “fix” based on the factual data that we now have in our possession, and which he did not (the objective part).

Further, this can be done in a way that does not invalidate what he did, but rather compliments and expands on it. For instance; his Phaser II can be just a different model, or perhaps the TOS era equivalent of an “assault phaser”? This way, we can use a corrected phaser II diagram alongside his version.

The same can be done with starship interior facilities like the auxiliary control and the emergency manual monitor among others; these could be incorporated into the already established framework of multiple subclasses and individual ship modifications etc. etc. and can be shown as additions or revisions to his existing technical orders.

Having said that, like most everybody else, there are things that I don’t like about FJ’s work, and things I wish he had done differently and I would like to change, but these are not things I would impose on an updated or revised FJ tech manual, for that, I would start from scratch with my own interpretation, if I were ever so inclined.
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