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Old June 1 2013, 06:37 PM   #16
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Re: STAR TREK: a series treatment starring APRIL and COLT

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Sure it is.

That is to say, if it were, then it wouldn't be posted here.

Pass.
It is. It's posted here because it's been registered and safe to do so.
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Old June 1 2013, 06:39 PM   #17
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Maybe fan films is where this belongs?
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Old June 1 2013, 06:40 PM   #18
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Maybe fan films is where this belongs?
i posted a link to this thread, there, too.

but no... this is part of a proposal for an episodic television show, despite your interpretation.
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Old June 1 2013, 06:45 PM   #19
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it amazes me that i must say so...

but there is little need to be rude or antagonistic here...
I agree. I was just trying to get clarification. Since I haven't seen Farscape, however, the answer went over my head.

i'm not trying to be anyone's Braga
Gee, I hope not. I'm not a huge fan of his.
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Old June 1 2013, 06:51 PM   #20
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it amazes me that i must say so...

but there is little need to be rude or antagonistic here...
I agree. I was just trying to get clarification. Since I haven't seen Farscape, however, the answer went over my head.

i'm not trying to be anyone's Braga
Gee, I hope not. I'm not a huge fan of his.
neither am i, in the slightest.


it's similar to the 80's show Benson in some sense.

Benson was the chief of staff to a state Governor, and the show was dealt with the humor of bureaucracies and insider politics.

i've also heard the presentation type compared to The Office, though i can't vouch for that.

i think it's Gaius Baltar humor from BSG, if anything.

dry/intelligent/witty. and not every line is humor/joke (or on laughtrack timing)
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Old June 1 2013, 07:04 PM   #21
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Re: STAR TREK: a series treatment starring APRIL and COLT

I'll be honest, by posting it here you've pretty much guaranteed that CBS will reject it.

And I'm sorry, I just don't see Star Trek as a work place comedy.
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Old June 1 2013, 07:12 PM   #22
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I'll be honest, by posting it here you've pretty much guaranteed that CBS will reject it.
Bingo.
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Old June 1 2013, 07:13 PM   #23
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Re: STAR TREK: a series treatment starring APRIL and COLT

In fairness, I took a few minutes and read it.

Umm...

It's not very good. It has way too many callbacks to other series and I found none of what was proposed particularly funny.

And you misspelled 'Constitution'.

EDIT: Plus, projects like Star Trek are usually developed 'in-house' by the company that owns the rights.
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Old June 1 2013, 07:52 PM   #24
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I'll be honest, by posting it here you've pretty much guaranteed that CBS will reject it.
Since I know nothing about this field, I have to ask: why ?
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Old June 1 2013, 07:57 PM   #25
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I'll be honest, by posting it here you've pretty much guaranteed that CBS will reject it.
Since I know nothing about this field, I have to ask: why ?
Because you've published it for everyone to see and to copy and then claim CBS stole their ideas.

Same reason authors don't like for folks to mention story ideas in the Trek Literature forum.

Plus, I would think CBS would like to keep the contents of any new Trek series from the public until they are ready to announce it.
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Old June 1 2013, 08:22 PM   #26
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Re: STAR TREK: a series treatment starring APRIL and COLT

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In fairness, I took a few minutes and read it.

Umm...

It's not very good. It has way too many callbacks to other series and I found none of what was proposed particularly funny.

And you misspelled 'Constitution'.

EDIT: Plus, projects like Star Trek are usually developed 'in-house' by the company that owns the rights.
It gives me great pleasure to address your points.

1) 'callbacks' - that's entirely it's point. if it can be done well, it should be done.

2) humor - to each their own, but you haven't heard a line of dialogue yet.

3) any typo is a result of a cut and paste operation into the bbs commenting structure. i also lost all all of my bold headings, indentations, and italicizations. the text has seen a thousand sets of eyes (literally) before yours.

4) Nicholas Meyer, Harve Bennett, and JJ Abrams. i rest my case.

i love being underestimated. so please continue with any questions or quibbles.

i'm not afraid of opinion, and i have spent farrrrrr more hours on the business and negotiation aspects of this proposal than you're estimating.
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Old June 1 2013, 08:48 PM   #27
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Re: STAR TREK: a series treatment starring APRIL and COLT

Since I know nothing about this field, I have to ask: why ?
Because you've published it for everyone to see and to copy and then claim CBS stole their ideas.

Same reason authors don't like for folks to mention story ideas in the Trek Literature forum.

Plus, I would think CBS would like to keep the contents of any new Trek series from the public until they are ready to announce it.
fortunately i know a lot about this field, and i have pretty keen advisors.

this treatment is registered with the WGA, and only released on specific terms.

i'm well cognizant of the secrecy around the Trek empire, and this violates none. (if i were to share my 'bible' and teleplay's on the otherhand...). this proposal reflects an anthology presentation of existing licensed material (with obvious expository situations expected). as a fan, i don't like the secrecy of the organization. it's warranted in some regard, but far too extreme in others. as well, i do my best to Captain Kirk my way around the rules.

my tactic is 'leverage' of product. i'm not naive to think that there aren't a million Star Trek ideas out there.

this is a pitch, among many, that is WGA registered, and developed in depth. the overall proposal includes a business plan, a bible, 4 teleplays, and detailed story outlines for 188 episodes. (plus cover letters, synopses, etc)

in terms of most pitches for ANY series, there are few as detailed as this.. (even just in what i've posted here)

and i throw in the added bonus of reconciling the franchise continuity/time and proposed use of the movie cast in their age appropriate roles.

to my knowledge, NO OTHER TREK PITCH has yet to make that consideration. (and JJ Abrams is out, now, remember)

i'm trying, of course, to please fans, for which i would classify myself as a former/current MEGA FAN... but ultimately, like i mentioned earlier, it's gotta be something that grabs the exec well enough to make it to screen. i could have it on tv for fall '13 with a greenlight tomorrow (not anticipated), but i'm well into my calendar of roll out/actualization for fall '14.

i'm not doubting troubles and hair pulling with CBS. however, as mentioned, i'm approaching with leverage (and this includes contacts with key players for enactment of my proposal, talent and creative-wise, which i'm not naming at this time)

Dorn's/Singer's/Fuller's/Orci's pitches haven't pleased CBS well enough, so i'm giving it a try. (and i'm quite a capable individual)

post script: and as much as we'd like to think so, TrekBBS can't exactly be categorized as "the general public." it's a fraction of a percent of the fanbase. (we're the ones hardcore enough for BBS-ing?)
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Old June 1 2013, 08:58 PM   #28
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the text has seen a thousand sets of eyes (literally) before yours.
Literally ? You've shown this to a thousand people ?

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Well, that attitude bodes well...

this is a pitch, among many, that is WGA registered, and developed in depth. the overall proposal includes a business plan, a bible, 4 teleplays, and detailed story outlines for 188 episodes. (plus cover letters, synopses, etc)
That's rather impressive, however.
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Old June 1 2013, 09:03 PM   #29
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the text has seen a thousand sets of eyes (literally) before yours.
Literally ? You've shown this to a thousand people ?

i love being underestimated.
Well, that attitude bodes well...

this is a pitch, among many, that is WGA registered, and developed in depth. the overall proposal includes a business plan, a bible, 4 teleplays, and detailed story outlines for 188 episodes. (plus cover letters, synopses, etc)
That's rather impressive, however.
yep, literally. 'eye's only' in different incarnations prior to registration, and then through my personal social networks afterwards. (just this info) (i've got quite a spectrum, personally, and i have the perks of owning a couple facebook pages with between 30-40k [though not in the genre]).
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Old June 1 2013, 09:09 PM   #30
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Well at least I gave it a read.

Commanded by Captain Robert APRIL, and documented by his bookkeeper, COLT, these two characters will encounter the discontinuity and be tasked to restore the Star Trek universe to PRIMETIME.
I don't think that's a good idea. First off, only big fans of Trek care about the previous timeline(s). Second, do you really want a series that strives to restore what was abandoned four years ago ? The whole point of the reboot was to do away with all that. I don't see CBS wanting to go back on all this.

I also don't think CBS cares about previous plot holes or about "Roddenberry's vision". The treatment gives way too much minutiae about Trek that, again, they will just skip over, in my opinion.

Also, most of your 'cast' appears North-American or caucasian, quite far from Roddenberry's vision.
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