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Old June 1 2013, 05:36 AM   #16
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Re: LOVED FILM but...two things that annoyed me (spoilers)

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I did find the line about the Klingons a bit odd, even forgetting Enterprise... Only two worlds? Just seems like a minor threat at best. Unless we're talking about Federation member worlds. Which would mean the Klingons were actively invading Federation territory.
Picard referred to the "disastrous First Contact" with the Klingons, which led to decades of war.

We saw Archer go against Vulcan wishes to return Klaang to his homeworld in "Broken Bow" (ENT) and, later, the episode "Judgment" where Archer is put on trial and sent to Rura Penthe. Fans complained at the time that it wasn't nearly "disastrous" enough, but all those niggly things - and many offscreen events in the interim - could add up to disaster when viewed from the 24th century.

Lots of wiggle room for all manner of sabre rattling.
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Old June 1 2013, 06:23 AM   #17
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Re: LOVED FILM but...two things that annoyed me

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How nitpicky are these on a scale of 1-10?

1 - Marcus's reference to the Klingons as if they'd just made first contact with them which pretty much ignored the backstory of Enterprise
I don't think this was implied at all. They simply said that the tension was rising between them.

2 - no flashback to show the Botany Bay?
No need. Khan tells all there is to know. A bit fast, but sufficient.
To "Khan tells all..." I remember commenting to my husband at the time, " That's a big block of exposition right there." I know, it would take way too long to show rather than say, but it was still a lot all at once.
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Old June 1 2013, 11:47 AM   #18
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Re: LOVED FILM but...two things that annoyed me (spoilers)

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Yep. Who cared about the switch in Saaviks? Kirstie Alley fans. And sticklers for continuity. And Robin Curtis and her agent.
Although I _did_ care about the switch to Valeris. Saavik would've made more sense.
And that's my opinion.
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