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Star Trek Movies I-X Discuss the first ten big screen outings in this forum!

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Old May 31 2013, 01:56 AM   #16
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Re: Wrath of Khan – my favorite design

The TWoK uniforms are the most 'believable' in the sense that you see a diverse range of uniform types in TWoK (and even more in the subsequent films) for different taks and crew, as you would imagine the case in a real (semi-)military organisation. I know this is due to real-world budgetary limitations, but it's always bugged me that in the various TV series, we rarely if ever see a variety of uniforms on the crew apart from the standard ones.

Incidentally, weren't the TWoK uniforms originally going to be gold, blue and red, keeping the TV show divisions scheme, but the chosen gold and blue colours didn't film satisfactorily? Am I remembering that factoid correctly?
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Old May 31 2013, 03:11 AM   #17
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Hero costumes then...I'll bet the extras didn't have flaps!
I don't know. The flap seems like a byproduct of how the actors put them on.
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Old May 31 2013, 08:47 PM   #18
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Costume designer Robert Fletcher made up a series of color samples with the maroon color being chosen because director Nick Meyer liked how it stood out against the background of the bridge set. I've never heard of them specifically considering the TOS colors, but it had to at least cross their minds.

They were also limited by what colors they could dye the TMP jumpsuits since they needed to save money and reuse TMP pieces as much as possible. The maroon color worked well so TMP jumpsuits were dyed and modified to become the WOK crewman uniforms.

As for the flap on the maroons, Meyer wanted a swashbuckling feel to the uniforms and used moves like "Horatio Hornblower" and "The Prisoner of Zenda" as style references.



The flap was simply a functional bit of the uniform that the actors sometimes used. Usually they were only opened when something happened – life support goes out and the bridge gets hot, for instance. The flap interior color also designated rank levels– white for command level and tan for everything else. The flaps were always functional, even in background pieces. I showed the center uniform with an open flap to show command – it's Spock's from ST4. The other – Rand's – has a tan interior.

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Old June 1 2013, 02:52 AM   #19
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Yeah, definitely Saavik's from ST:III
Have you got screenshots? I had a quick flick through the movie and couldn't see it...
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Old June 1 2013, 02:58 AM   #20
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Yeah, definitely Saavik's from ST:III
Have you got screenshots? I had a quick flick through the movie and couldn't see it...
It's from the end when it's hot on Vulcan

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Old June 1 2013, 05:25 AM   #21
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Here you can see she has it on under the field jacket. She wears it throughout the film.



Here you can see it in a cast promo shot:

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Old June 2 2013, 04:21 PM   #22
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Re: Wrath of Khan – my favorite design

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Yeah, definitely Saavik's from ST:III
Have you got screenshots? I had a quick flick through the movie and couldn't see it...
Now that I've seen the cast promo shot, I understand why Tom Sutton drew Saavik in that uniform in DC's Star Trek comic. During the run of issues where Kirk commands the Excelsior (offically, #17 through #36, though he unofficially commands the Excelsior midway through the Mirror Universe saga), Sutton drew Saavik with a more casual vest uniform top. For the longest time, I thought that due to Sutton doing his own riff on the uniforms, but now I see that he was following the lead of Star Trek III.
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Old June 10 2013, 06:22 PM   #23
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Re: Wrath of Khan – my favorite design

I always loved the TWOK uniforms but they seems terribly impractical for space in hindsight.

Then again, I always hated the TMP uniforms but looking at them now they looks fairly futuristic and plausible to me (giant belt buckle notwithstanding...)

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Old June 10 2013, 07:44 PM   #24
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I do love the uniform designs for TWOK. The movie uniforms are still my favorites concerning the classic movies.
Agree.
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Old June 10 2013, 11:30 PM   #25
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My favorite sets of uniforms.

Always liked how functional the engirneering uniforms looked.

Shame they went back to the pajama look in TNG....
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Old June 11 2013, 06:43 AM   #26
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The TWOK uniforms are my favorite as well, for their futuristic take on historic naval uniforms.

I do wish that they had kept the three colors from TOS for the jackets. I've often wondered how the TWOK jacket would look in gold and blue.
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Old June 11 2013, 01:32 PM   #27
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These are by far my favourite Star Trek uniforms. I love them so much that it actually kind of spoiled all the later TV shows for me that the uniforms were so basic in comparison.

But damn! That Saavik top!
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Old June 12 2013, 05:22 PM   #28
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Great Collection though neoworx!
Thanks! I'm just glad to see other fans of the WOK style.

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I do wish that they had kept the three colors from TOS for the jackets. I've often wondered how the TWOK jacket would look in gold and blue.
Lots of people have made the same query. I wondered myself so I worked this up. I have to say I'm not a fan.

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Old June 12 2013, 05:53 PM   #29
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Lots of people have made the same query. I wondered myself so I worked this up. I have to say I'm not a fan.

I love that look! If those had been the uniforms, the TWOK uniforms would've easily been my favorite.
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Old June 12 2013, 11:48 PM   #30
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^I think it would have worked, we're just not used to seeing them like that.

I think that coloring scheme would have worked a lot better than what they wound up doing in TNG when they tried to "modify" the TWOK uniforms to cheaply suggest an interim design between the TWOK and TNG uniforms. They looked awful without the turtlenecks and belts...essentially a jacket being worn without a shirt underneath.
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