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Old May 30 2013, 03:43 PM   #16
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Re: The Revised Starfleet Technical Manual/ Starship Enterprise (NCC-1

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The FJ blueprints and TM are fully licensed tie-in products, and in that sense are official.
Official in the sense that royalties have been paid and no violence of copyrights has occurred. That tells us little or nothing regarding the value of content, which can simply be evaluated by what you actually see on your screen (and what not).

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Old May 30 2013, 03:48 PM   #17
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The FJ blueprints and TM are fully licensed tie-in products, and in that sense are official.
Official in the sense that royalties have been paid and no violence of copyrights has occurred. That tells us little or nothing regarding the value of content, which can simply be evaluated by what you actually see on your screen (and what not).

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Yeah, I pretty much covered that in the part of my post that you left out. I've highlighted it for you, here, in case you missed it:

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The FJ blueprints and TM are fully licensed tie-in products, and in that sense are official. Naturally, that is completely irrelevant to whether fans find them satisfactory.
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Old June 1 2013, 01:36 AM   #18
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Re: The Revised Starfleet Technical Manual/ Starship Enterprise (NCC-1

I would also edit the list to add:

78. Klingon disruptor pistol
79. Klingon communicator
80. Lazarus' Timeship
81. Energizer Room
82. Dilithium Crystal
83. Lazarus' clothes
84. Spock's red toolbox and lucite grabbers
85. Science lab's containment analyzer
86. Medical biolab
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Old June 1 2013, 01:53 AM   #19
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Regarding the Pike era phaser rifle, it was apparently a prop that FJ strongly disliked aesthetically. He refused to include it in the TM for that reason.
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Old June 1 2013, 08:15 PM   #20
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Details on the Super Phaser turret on the early spacedock
http://www.cygnus-x1.net/links/lcars...m/01-01-32.jpg
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Old June 2 2013, 02:14 PM   #21
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Details on the Super Phaser turret on the early spacedock
http://www.cygnus-x1.net/links/lcars...m/01-01-32.jpg
I don't see a detail of it there. You got me all excited about seeing some real details of this from the FJ Tech Manual, but alas.

I already have the book, of course.
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Old June 2 2013, 03:37 PM   #22
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Official in the sense that royalties have been paid and no violence of copyrights has occurred.
I always hate it when violence breaks out over copyright issues.
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Old June 2 2013, 04:30 PM   #23
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P.S. Just because Gene Roddenberry liked the FJ blueprints of the Enterprise, which FJ apparently took as a justification to add "approved by Gene Roddenberry" (that would have been the task of Matt Jefferies...), doesn't make these "official".

The little anecdote told by FJ how Gene Roddenberry picked a room for himself on these blueprints but didn't really understand which room he had picked (...) is clear evidence that Gene Roddenberry didn't really understand what he was looking it (which would be a presupposition for a qualified approval, IMHO).
The FJ blueprints and TM are fully licensed tie-in products, and in that sense are official. Naturally, that is completely irrelevant to whether fans find them satisfactory.
There ARE a lot of fully licensed tie-in products out there. That status doesn't, however, validate them as being representative of what viewers of the show watched and fell in love with.
This.

Indeed there is a line in the TNG TM that says fans are free to accept or ignore whatever is between the covers of said reference book. I think that sentiment could apply to any technical reference book since the content could be superseded by an as yet to be produced episode or film. Of course the likelihood of that now depends upon whether TPTB ever opt or return to the original continuity.
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Old June 2 2013, 11:00 PM   #24
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Does anyone know if there is any info on the coffee pot Star Trek used for its rec room set? Tall, chrome/SS look, skinny, with a black plastic handle?
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Old June 5 2013, 07:17 PM   #25
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Answered my own question, although only after quite a bit of research:

Here's a flickr slideshow with more shots:

http://www.flickr.com/photos/1090112...77139911/show/
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Old June 8 2013, 08:05 PM   #26
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At least that one doesn't look like Hitler, like the one the internet is talking about...
http://i.imgur.com/SpX6v7G.jpg
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Old June 9 2013, 02:22 PM   #27
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Some of these props (like the coffee pot, gray solo cups, tray, bowl, plates, utensils) look like something someone sneaked off the craft services table because it was easier.

Oh, by the way, right now I'm trying to model the phaser assembly I think Greg Jein did for the show, but only seen on a shipboard display obliquely. It will be my first public Sketchup model, so be gentle.
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Old June 9 2013, 02:35 PM   #28
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Well some things likely won't change all that much over time.
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Old June 9 2013, 02:51 PM   #29
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A revised breakdown of the crew complement of the Constitution class starship should be included.
An explaination as to why the Enterprise compliment increased from 203 to 430, what changed to require this.

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There ARE a lot of fully licensed tie-in products out there. That status doesn't, however, validate them as being representative of what viewers of the show watched and fell in love with.
Those portion of the FJ blueprints that appeared on screen in the movies are canon, however that doesn't make all the blueprint canon, just those bits that appeared on screen.

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Old June 9 2013, 03:26 PM   #30
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An explaination as to why the Enterprise compliment increased from 203 to 430, what changed to require this.
Quick Trekkie rationalization off the top of my head: Pike's mission was peacekeeping and patrol. Kirk's mission was that PLUS exploration, requiring additional science teams.

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