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Old May 29 2013, 12:31 AM   #16
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Re: Currently Untitled JJverse Next Gen Production

I say the opposite, break from tradition. That's what got us Enterprise and Voyager and Nemesis.

Sometimes tradition must change.
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Old May 29 2013, 04:50 AM   #17
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I'd like to ask a general question about this production. Mostly to do with it's legal existence, and please don't take this the wrong way because I find the notion of any productions in the JJ verse to be interesting. I'd love to see more of it from the fans perspective.

Isn't this against the rules laid down by the guys/gals at CBS/Paramount with regards to what we can and can't do? Can't call something official, can't make money, and can't do anything with the JJ Verse?

If that has changed, or there is a technical loophole here, i'd love to hear it, as I had some ideas that I begrudgingly dropped when I read the new rules some months ago.
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Old May 29 2013, 07:01 AM   #18
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Well, for starters I'm not calling it official, ideally we won't be making from it, I'm hoping that the only cost is materials and paying people for their time of work. As for JJVerse, if it's not official and not making money, they kinda have no legal grounds to do anything.
The production itself I'm essentially just making for youtube, and If need be I may ignore major plot points of JJ's to avoid from considered based on his but still maintain a similar visual feel.
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Old May 29 2013, 07:30 AM   #19
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No, I understand what you're saying entirely. I was under the impression that anything relating to the JJ universe was strictly a no-go. I was hoping some new information had arisen.
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Old June 21 2013, 05:01 AM   #20
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I hope this goes through! I'd love to see it or perhaps contribute in some way!
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Old June 21 2013, 07:46 PM   #21
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As for JJVerse, if it's not official and not making money, they kinda have no legal grounds to do anything.
Apologies, but I believe you are mistaken. They can shut down any fanfilm they like at any time. The 'no profit' line is simply one of the reasons they turn a blind eye, but they have every legal right to shut them down, regardless of whether they are for profit or not.
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Old June 21 2013, 08:53 PM   #22
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As for JJVerse, if it's not official and not making money, they kinda have no legal grounds to do anything.
Apologies, but I believe you are mistaken. They can shut down any fanfilm they like at any time. The 'no profit' line is simply one of the reasons they turn a blind eye, but they have every legal right to shut them down, regardless of whether they are for profit or not.
This is true.
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Old June 23 2013, 05:40 PM   #23
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As for JJVerse, if it's not official and not making money, they kinda have no legal grounds to do anything.

As an attorney, I can tell you that you are 100% wrong.

And even the non-lawyers here know this. Please don't do anything stupid that risks the ability of all of us to continue doing what we love. CBS ignores us so long as we don't do anything that crosses the line.
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Old June 24 2013, 05:09 AM   #24
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More to the point, even if they didn't have legal grounds the threat of a legal hassle is enough so that most people would cave as soon as a C&D was served, because who's going to spend the time and money to fight such a suit?
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Old June 25 2013, 07:00 PM   #25
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*raises hand*

It hasn't stopped the other guys from making fan films. So why worry?
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Old June 25 2013, 07:59 PM   #26
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Do what you want. If you get a Cease & Desist, that's the risk you (and all fan film makers) take.
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Old June 25 2013, 08:02 PM   #27
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I would strongly suggest dropping the "JJverse" tagline, and just have this series set in an alternate universe/timeline of your own creation. Don't put any references in the story to the current movies. I think its a safe bet that they DON'T want fan films set in the future of their "JJverse", because that future hasn't been written yet. We saw in TNG that their were alternate universes, so it might be best to just create your own and play with it.

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Old June 26 2013, 05:51 AM   #28
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I will be talking to Paramount, or at least my lawyer, about exactly what I can get away with. I use the phrase "JJverse" only to demonstrate to those on here that it's planning to be a rather flashy version of Star Trek. I'm bringing the stories back toward a more Roddenberry approach, but sticking with the rather elaborate visuals of JJ's.
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Old June 26 2013, 10:10 AM   #29
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Good luck and i'd love to see another fan film, but if you try cbs/paramounts patience they might just decide to shut down all the fan films.
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Old June 26 2013, 06:11 PM   #30
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I encourage you to create your own universe. Many fan films have done that, and it makes you far less likely to get on the wrong side of the owners of Trek.
Here are two which were adopted by more than one fan filmmaker:

Star Track http://startrekreviewed.blogspot.com/2009/06/96.html . Note that this fan film series had enough devoted fans than another group created their own series in the Star Track universe: http://startrekreviewed.blogspot.com/2009/06/97.html

Star Trekz Empire: http://startrekreviewed.blogspot.com/2009/06/124.html and the related (possibly same universe, but different producer and writer) Fem Trekz: http://startrekreviewed.blogspot.com/2009/06/117.html

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