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Old May 29 2013, 03:09 AM   #1411
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Re: STID "tracking" for $85-90 million opening [U.S. box office]

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If they want an anniversary deal open on the same day that TOS hit the air.
TOS debuted in September 1966. September is one of the worst box office months of the year.
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Old May 29 2013, 03:17 AM   #1412
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One thing not mentioned here at all is that STID never opened in the same number of theaters as ST09...by hundreds. This is likely because of all the movies coming out. So the increased numbers from Imax and so on are mitigated by the lower numbers of theaters...and it STILL is doing about the same as ST09.

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Old May 29 2013, 03:28 AM   #1413
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Aside from yesterday's Memorial Day sales, Into Darkness has been underperforming '09 for the past week

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Old May 29 2013, 03:44 AM   #1414
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Star Trek VI: The Undiscovered Country cost approximately $30 million to make which I'm not sure what the equivalent is today. Maybe $100 million?

That movie was so well written, and masterfully directed by Nick Meyer that it was a huge success. To me, from the score...sound and special effects and writing, it was really a beautiful movie...the best in the series IMHO.

My point is that you can do more with less if the movie is written, directed, and produced properly. What's sad to me, and I hope that I'm wrong, is that after Star Trek 3 is released, it will be a miracle to re-assemble this cast in it's entirety for a 4th Trek. There is always a sour apple or two in the group that won't want to come back, or will want an exorbitant amount of money to do so.

I loved Into Darkness but, $190 million to me is a ridiculous budget for a Trek movie. I hope this franchise goes on for many more movies but, it's not likely due to these escalating budgets. Again...I hope I'm wrong.

and unlike TFF, TUC (to me) doesn't look like a cheaply made movie. Meyer knew how to get a lot of movie out of a little money.
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Old May 29 2013, 04:17 AM   #1415
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If they want an anniversary deal open on the same day that TOS hit the air.
TOS debuted in September 1966. September is one of the worst box office months of the year.
Yeah, September is where movies go to die.

Release it on 2016? Sure. Same day? Hell no!
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Old May 29 2013, 10:45 AM   #1416
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Don't think Paramount is getting what they wanted when they dumped another $40 million into the budget. This won't outgross 09 Trek from the looks of things, particularly from a domestic standpoint.

In fact, pay particular attention to the 10-day gross. It's far behind 09 Trek.

http://www.boxofficemojo.com/showdow...ekshowdown.htm

Hopefully this spells the end of Lindelof, Abrams and Co!
It's doing well on the foreign box office and might end up being on par if not exceed 2009 by worldwide total. It's by no means a failure. It's not even out in some anticipated bigger foreign markets yet.

JJ and team saved Star Trek. I remember in 2005 the franchise looked completely doomed on TV, and in the theaters. I really thought it was all over.

Nowadays. Star Trek, even if it doesn't make a huge amount of profit is saved. If they made a TV series now it would atleast have a bigger domestic and international audience.
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Old May 29 2013, 12:10 PM   #1417
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i hope they give it back to berman and co so we can finally get that romulan war movie with enterprise away on holiday on risa
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Old May 29 2013, 12:28 PM   #1418
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Since they have a contract for three films, I doubt it.
They will likely "mutually agree to go a different direction". It happens all the time.

Do you really believe that Abrams will go directly from Star Wars back to Star Trek in May 2015?

I certainly don't.
Paramount already announced Bad Robot would produce the movie whether Abrams directs or not.
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Old May 29 2013, 12:38 PM   #1419
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i hope they give it back to berman and co so we can finally get that romulan war movie with enterprise away on holiday on risa

IMO Paramount would be crazy to give it back to Berman. He and others did not know when to leave and pass the torch to others and the franchise suffered for it. It will never happen.

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Old May 29 2013, 12:40 PM   #1420
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With all Bad Robots first choice people busy with Star Wars I wonder where that leaves Star Trek? Everyone except the script writers will move to Star Wars and Trek gets the B team?
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Old May 29 2013, 12:59 PM   #1421
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With all Bad Robots first choice people busy with Star Wars I wonder where that leaves Star Trek? Everyone except the script writers will move to Star Wars and Trek gets the B team?
I doubt all Bad Robots top people will be all working on Star Wars. I'm sure the company has a lot of good people that will be working on Star Trek, likely some will work on both.

Plus if Paramount thought that Star Trek was not getting the attention it needed, I'm sure the relationship with Bad Robot would come to an abrupt end.
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Old May 29 2013, 01:20 PM   #1422
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I hadn't thought of that. I assume Abrams will be utilising most of his usual collaborators on Episode VII. I do hope some of Bad Robot's main talent will stay involved with Trek XIII. Orci and Kurtzman will still write, I assume. Lindelof's out. I think he's developing a new movie or series. Michael Arndt is writing Star Wars episode VII.
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Old May 29 2013, 02:09 PM   #1423
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Since they have a contract for three films, I doubt it.
They will likely "mutually agree to go a different direction". It happens all the time.

Do you really believe that Abrams will go directly from Star Wars back to Star Trek in May 2015?

I certainly don't.
That's nice, but you really don't have a clue what you're talking about here.

Do you have a list of those at Bad Robot, other than Abrams, who are "going to Star Wars?"

Bad Robot will produce a Star Trek film for Paramount to be released in 2016. It's that simple.
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Old May 29 2013, 02:20 PM   #1424
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i hope they give it back to berman and co so we can finally get that romulan war movie with enterprise away on holiday on risa
Coming in May 2016! Star Trek XIII: The First Mission, starring Robert Duncan McNeil as James T. Kirk and Alexander Enberg as Mr. Spock. Screenplay by Brannon Braga.

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Old May 29 2013, 02:44 PM   #1425
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i hope they give it back to berman and co so we can finally get that romulan war movie with enterprise away on holiday on risa
Coming in May 2016! Star Trek XIII: The First Mission, starring Robert Duncan McNeil as James T. Kirk and Alexander Enberg as Mr. Spock. Screenplay by Brannon Braga.

Brannon Braga deserves a lot of credit (along with Ronald D. Moore) for writing Star Trek: First Contact and Enterprise. However, a quick glance at the IDW comic which he wrote, 'Star Trek TNG: Hive', is enough to convince me that Abrams and co were the right people for the reboot.

If anyone wants to dig a little deeper into 'Hive', see this review: http://www.flickeringmyth.com/2013/0...trek-next.html

Absolutely, mind-numbingly awful!
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