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View Poll Results: the ugliest enterprise is...
nx-01 16 13.91%
tos enterprise 2 1.74%
enterprise A 1 0.87%
enterprise B 17 14.78%
enterprise C 6 5.22%
enterpriseD 20 17.39%
enterprise F 10 8.70%
JJprise 43 37.39%
Voters: 115. You may not vote on this poll

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Old May 28 2013, 11:00 PM   #31
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Re: the ugliest enterprise

I'd have to say the ringed version. True, it was never used in actual scenes in an episode or film, but we know it's canon because its picture appeared on 1) the TMP rec room wall, 2) the 602 club in ENT's "First Flight", and 3) Admiral Marcus' office desk in STID.

Runner up goes to the Enterprise-J as seen in "Azati Prime". Though in that case we can take some comfort in the fact that the "real" Ent-J will probably not look like that. Remember, the J came from an alternate future in which the Federation was involved in a long war with the Sphere Builders. Starship design was probably a bit "stunted" in that timeline because of the war draining all of Starfleet's resources (notice how the Ent-J looks a lot like a squashed NX-01).

That being said, I really don't understand all the NX-01 hate. Even if it is ugly, well, it's kinda SUPPOSED to be, ain't it? This is not exactly the pinnacle of technological advancement, the time period it's set in. I actually liked the NX, I thought it was nice looking. Even better with the secondary hull!
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Old May 28 2013, 11:05 PM   #32
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Re: the ugliest enterprise

The 'D'.

Ugly, badly proportioned and squat - I've always disliked it.
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Old May 28 2013, 11:28 PM   #33
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the tos enterprise. drab grey. bland.
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Old May 28 2013, 11:44 PM   #34
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JJprise. The nacelles are the most prominent offender, had hoped it would be re-designed for this outing; especially with all the damage it is taking and can not quite look well non matter what angle it faces. MHO, of course.
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Old May 28 2013, 11:48 PM   #35
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Re: the ugliest enterprise

Mr. Laser Beam wrote: View Post
That being said, I really don't understand all the NX-01 hate.
I find it quite elegant, myself. Too much, in fact, for the 22nd century, but I like the design more than its Akira predecessor.

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JJprise.
I really wish people stopped calling it that. Or anything related to the new movies as "jj" something or "abrams" something.
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Old May 28 2013, 11:49 PM   #36
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JJ Prise is dog vomit.
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Old May 28 2013, 11:50 PM   #37
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Re: the ugliest enterprise

I vote for the B--the unnecessary kitbashing takes the sleek Excelsior design and makes it look awkward.

The one that I most dislike conceptually is the NX-01, but I can't say that it's ugly. That's part of the problem--It should have been.
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Old May 29 2013, 12:02 AM   #38
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Another vote for Enterprise B. I was never the biggest fan of Excelsior to begin with, but, ya, the kitbashing was just a bad idea.

Who voted for the original?
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Old May 29 2013, 12:47 AM   #39
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i did and i said why
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Old May 29 2013, 04:04 AM   #40
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I don't think any are ugly!! They all have things I like and don't, either a sleek looking profile or a radical "new" Look. They all reflect the time period when they were designed, 60s 80s to today.

My least favorite is the F. I think it looks has a gothic design, and old looking starship.

Interesting thought....kinda off topic BUT
When a team or person starts thinking of a new enterprise where do you think they start?? Requirements for the mission, top view, nacelles, etc?

I would start with a plain silhouette and see where that takes me.
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Old May 29 2013, 04:50 AM   #41
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JJEnt. Miss-proportioned --tho I like most of the surface details and the cinematic presentation of the ship-- and the aesthetics of some of the interior spaces are not my cup of Earl Grey.
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Old May 29 2013, 05:11 AM   #42
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I really wish people stopped calling it that. Or anything related to the new movies as "jj" something or "abrams" something.
Do you have a suggestion that's less cumbersome than "alternate universe _______" ?
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Old May 29 2013, 06:20 AM   #43
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Re: the ugliest enterprise

Yeah, I don't mind it being referred to as the "JJPrise," since writing out "Alternate Universe Enterprise" is a bit cumbersome, as is "Enterprise (JJ Abrams Variant)" and so on. So I figure the shorthand is fine.

Anyhoo, it was difficult for me to decide, as there are things I like about every Enterprise we've seen on-screen, save for the Enterprise-J, which I consider truly ugly. Of course, it's not a poll option, so I have to pick something else.

I guess if I had to choose, I'd choose the NX-01, though I still like it, it would be my least favorite design.
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Old May 29 2013, 06:42 AM   #44
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Re: the ugliest enterprise

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the tos enterprise. drab grey. bland.
The overall color of the TOS-E is functional military grey. As for bland, I'd say more like simple, clean, classic.

Well, that's what makes horse races, as they say.
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Old May 29 2013, 07:48 AM   #45
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Re: the ugliest enterprise

JJ-Prise would've been alright if the nacelles weren't so swollen up front, like the front fenders of a 50's Chevy.

The Enterprise B starts out OK on the saucer section, has a pretty cool metal fin treatment on the neck and then... WTF? The secondary hull planes out to the sides. Separated from the ship, it looks like some kind of weird kitchen appliance. And then those nacelles... AWFUL! They stretch on into infinity, so disgustingly long.

I agree that the Enterprise D's saucer section should have been oval from fore to aft, not port to starboard. If that had been done and the warp nacelles given some kind of aft ports, they would've looked like engines. Instead they look like pontoon floats.

NX-01 is supposed to look crude. It's the time frame that makes it so.


Anyway, Enterprise B stands out as the worst for me.
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