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Old May 28 2013, 10:26 PM   #1381
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If the posters there are correct and $24 million is the expected take in a week and $30-35 million, or maybe now $40 million, the expected take overall then China's box office is incredibly frontloaded!
It seems that way, GI:Joe opened in week 1 to $33m dollars and finished up with $53m dollars. So if Trek does make it to $24m we can hope for $40m, which is still a huge increase from $8m ST09 made in China! Thats $32m increase down to China alone if the estimates and projections are correct and thats a big IF!
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Old May 28 2013, 11:00 PM   #1382
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I never did make it to the theater for Insurrection.
Lucky you.
I never saw Nemesis or Insurrection at the theater. Yes, I'm a bad TNG fan.
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Old May 28 2013, 11:10 PM   #1383
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I don't understand why this movie had to have a $190 million budget. That meant that it basically had to make well over $300 million just to be a moderate success. The bloated budgets on these blockbusters now are ridiculous, it leaves no room for error. Had STID had a budget of $100 million it'd be doing well.
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Old May 28 2013, 11:13 PM   #1384
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I don't understand why this movie had to have a $190 million budget. That meant that it basically had to make well over $300 million just to be a moderate success. The bloated budgets on these blockbusters now are ridiculous, it leaves no room for error. Had STID had a budget of $100 million it'd be doing well.
I'm not sure it would be the same movie at $100 million.
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Old May 28 2013, 11:14 PM   #1385
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You could make a Star Trek movie for $100 million, but you couldn't make one like Star Trek Into Darkness (or Star Trek (2009) for that matter).
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Old May 28 2013, 11:16 PM   #1386
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Don't think Paramount is getting what they wanted when they dumped another $40 million into the budget. This won't outgross 09 Trek from the looks of things, particularly from a domestic standpoint.

In fact, pay particular attention to the 10-day gross. It's far behind 09 Trek.

http://www.boxofficemojo.com/showdow...ekshowdown.htm

Hopefully this spells the end of Lindelof, Abrams and Co!
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Old May 28 2013, 11:18 PM   #1387
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Hopefully this spells the end of Lindelof, Abrams and Co!
Since they have a contract for three films, I doubt it.
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Old May 28 2013, 11:21 PM   #1388
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The worst thing that will happen is they'll drop the budget down a little bit. Which won't necessarily be a problem. They have a lot of standing sets and props from two films now, they can still make it work for say 120 million.
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Old May 28 2013, 11:22 PM   #1389
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In fact, pay particular attention to the 10-day gross. It's far behind 09 Trek.
Star Trek's 12-day gross was $155,536,131. STiD's is $156,013,879. STiD will likely fall behind some after the third weekend domestically, but it's making significant gains in foreign box office.

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The worst thing that will happen is they'll drop the budget down a little bit. Which won't necessarily be a problem. They have a lot of standing sets and props from two films now, they can still make it work for say 120 million.
They may well trim the budget, but I can't see them going below $150-160 million.
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Old May 28 2013, 11:24 PM   #1390
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it's making significant gains in foreign box office.

Extremely.
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Old May 28 2013, 11:35 PM   #1391
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They reduced the budget from TMP to TWOK and also TFF to TUC. It's something Paramount in the past has been shown to do to cut costs.
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Old May 28 2013, 11:38 PM   #1392
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Since they have a contract for three films, I doubt it.
They will likely "mutually agree to go a different direction". It happens all the time.

Do you really believe that Abrams will go directly from Star Wars back to Star Trek in May 2015?

I certainly don't.
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Old May 28 2013, 11:39 PM   #1393
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They reduced the budget from TMP to TWOK and also TFF to TUC. It's something Paramount in the past has been shown to do to cut costs.
And they were better for it.
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Old May 28 2013, 11:43 PM   #1394
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Abrams won't direct the next Trek film. His schedule won't allow for it. Bad Robot will still be involved, though.
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Old May 28 2013, 11:44 PM   #1395
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Well, it's not just about how much it makes back. It's about how much it cost to make. Those two numbers, along with whatever was spent for advertisement, should always be considered when discussing the box office return.

Examples. If you spend 80 million on one movie, and then 120 million on the next, and your returns are 150 and 155 respectively, you've just barely gotten yourself out in front of your budget the second time, and hardly made any traction in expanding the audience. Some will respond to that by saying that the foreign markets are doing much better this time around. Yes, that's true, but they had to buy those numbers in advertisement. That could give the studio significant pause on putting another big budget down.
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