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Old May 28 2013, 12:07 AM   #1276
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Re: STID "tracking" for $85-90 million opening [U.S. box office]

But is it the kind of attention you want garnered...
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Old May 28 2013, 12:10 AM   #1277
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I can't see how a new film could be expected to make upwards of $100 million more based on a couple of relatively minor factors.
Perhaps not in tickets but ...

1. they'll get a bunch of free publicity from newspaper articles pointing out "50 years of Star Trek marked with a new film yadda yadda..."

2. they can profit from other companies using this anniversary to flog their products, and advertise ST at the same time as well, "Coca Cola celebrates 50 years of Star Trek" and such...

3. also it's easier to sell the back-catalogue if you have a new shiny thing in the display that everyone is talking about, both syndication rights and box sets are more likely to fly out of the shops.

And I'm sure corporate minds will find other ways of profiting from it as well...

2016 is pretty much a lock for the next one.
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Old May 28 2013, 12:16 AM   #1278
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Re: STID "tracking" for $85-90 million opening [U.S. box office]

The franchise is split at the moment, between CBS and Paramount, but a success of a new movie is a success for the whole franchise. Trek 09 saw boxsets for all the other series sell like hotcakes. I was hoping this movie would do the same. I already have all Trek shows and movies on DVD, but I double dipped on a few of them, on Blu ray, when ID came out, my interest in the franchise rejuvenated. And of course, the DVD retailers have tons of Star Trek stock in, at the moment.
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Old May 28 2013, 01:06 AM   #1279
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Re: STID "tracking" for $85-90 million opening [U.S. box office]

2016 is as long as we should have to wait anyway.
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Old May 28 2013, 01:17 AM   #1280
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"Straw men" are what the fan critics excel at.

When I want to talk about the old show, there's a forum for that.
Then you should have remember that when posting another of your pro-nuTrek comments in the TOS forum:

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What I do successfully ignore is CBS's ongoing attempt to see me the episodes of TOS over and over and over, as well as their chintzy merchandise with Shatner and Nimoy's images stamped all over it. nuTrek is a breath of fresh air compared to all that.
Agendas are easy to spot, guy.
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Old May 28 2013, 01:35 AM   #1281
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I think you're constructing a straw man. You could just as well substitute nuTrek for TOS and Bad Robot for Gene Roddenberry.
Not even close, CrazyHorse89.

As far as I see it, many of the most vociferous critics of this film (at least those who are fans) want it to fail, and this seems to be far more problematic than people wanting it to succeed.
I disagree. Observing various threads on nuTrek, a large, defensive body of members do behave like someone with a personal or professional stake in the success of the film. For example, I like some of the Marvel Comics films, but if one underperforms, it is not a matter for me or others you cite to scramble, wondering if it will add numbers in this or that territory, make it up on home video, etc.

At the end of the day, it is just a film, and this is just a discussion where the rule does not say "only BR/JJ supporter opinion welcome."

Some make it their priority to keep posting rather bitter comments attempting to criticize others for their opinion, which is (in my view) beyond the border of trolling, as it is not rare. Further, if nuTrek is the wonder that they hope/wish it to be, there woud be no need for such a concentrated, defensive effort. Honestly, if a few, random observations threaten nuTrek, then the film was in danger right out of the gates.

...but the danger comes from superheroes, comedic oddballs and fast cars, not a few message board members.
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Old May 28 2013, 01:44 AM   #1282
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But is it the kind of attention you want garnered...
Bear in mind that by the time the 50th anniversary arrives, kids who watched Star Trek as teens during its first run will be collecting Social Security.

This is not an audience that's of much use to the studio. For one thing we'll be getting the Senior Discount on our tickets.
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Old May 28 2013, 02:37 AM   #1283
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^ ^ ^ ^ ^
Funny, I AM collecting Social Security and I did get the senior discount ($6.00).
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Old May 28 2013, 02:39 AM   #1284
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Yep, but they can't count on us through too many more sequels - they'll have to start factoring the mortality rate into their opening weekend box office projections.
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Old May 28 2013, 02:43 AM   #1285
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They got plenty of money from this 28 year old!
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Old May 28 2013, 02:46 AM   #1286
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I went again today to a huge IMAX and the theater was about 80-85% full. People are still going to see it.
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Old May 28 2013, 03:07 AM   #1287
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If ID keeps pace with 09 then I expect to be seeing it in IMAX in late August.
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Old May 28 2013, 04:22 AM   #1288
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Despite the hardcore naysayers, the theater I saw it for the third time today was really really packed. The movie is going to do well.
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Old May 28 2013, 04:43 AM   #1289
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If ID keeps pace with 09 then I expect to be seeing it in IMAX in late August.
I really hope this happens.
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Old May 28 2013, 05:46 AM   #1290
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They got plenty of money from this 28 year old!
And plenty from this 25-year-old! (Rad user name and avatar, btw!)
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