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Old May 23 2013, 02:47 PM   #16
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I think it was a little bit of both wanting to comfort Pike and wanting to know what death felt like. The early part of the movie seemed to show that he was way too willing to allow himself to die.
The Countdown to Darkness comics certainly makes that the central theme for the Spocj character.
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Old May 24 2013, 07:54 PM   #17
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Wow I've seen this movie 3 times already and I missed that Spock was mind melding with Khan during that scene. It looked like they were both just trying to crush each other. It was great tactic on Spock's part though if that's what he was doing.
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Old May 24 2013, 08:01 PM   #18
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I didn't like the Pike-Spock mind meld. It felt creepy to me, a violation. It wasn't something Pike asked for.

At first I mollified myself with the idea that Spock was just trying to comfort Pike, but later on in the film I got the impression that Spock did it to experience what dying is like.

I like Quinto's Spock quite a bit but there were times when his Spock is a little too emotional for my taste.
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Old May 25 2013, 04:31 AM   #19
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^^^ When I watched it, it did seem kind of clinical, maybe even voyeuristic. And, remembering that it's a two-way thing, I'm not totally sure I'd want to be inside Spock's brain during my last moments on earth.
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Old May 25 2013, 05:15 AM   #20
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I thought Spock was saving his katra. Pike may not be totally gone.
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Old May 25 2013, 05:11 PM   #21
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Spock melding with Pike is another one of those not fully thought through, reversed TWOK references.



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Why did he try and mind meld with Khan?
He was probably trying to disable Khan with a telepathic attack.
You mean he was going to mind rape him.
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Old May 25 2013, 05:25 PM   #22
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In the prime timeline Spock was willing to risk a great deal for Pike, and it obviously went beyond logic, although it was presented if he was making the logical choices. He felt pretty strongly about Pike. In this timeline he did not have the chance to work with him for years, so it would be weaker, but with all the events that happened some of it would be there. Why wouldn't he meld with him?

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He was probably trying to disable Khan with a telepathic attack.
I thought Khan thought that his crew was killed and Spock wanted to reveal it wasn't before driven by his anger he went to cause even more destruction.
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Old May 27 2013, 02:54 AM   #23
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Why did Spock mind meld with Pike?
1. Curiosity about what it was like to die.
2. To try to bring some comfort to Pike.
3. To gather eyewitness information about the attack that was about to become unavailable otherwise.

Likely, all three reasons and more. Spock is a complex thinker.
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Old May 28 2013, 12:00 AM   #24
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I thought Spock was saving his katra. Pike may not be totally gone.
I had similar thoughts, though I'm not really sure what good it would do.
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Old May 28 2013, 03:55 AM   #25
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I thought Spock was saving his katra. Pike may not be totally gone.
I had similar thoughts, though I'm not really sure what good it would do.

Only if they use it in the next movie. If Spock starts flipping out like McCoy did in the original movies they could use it as part of the plot. With Vulcan gone it may be a lot harder finding Vulcans with the talent to deal with it.
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