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Star Trek Movies I-X Discuss the first ten big screen outings in this forum!

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Old May 27 2013, 05:28 AM   #16
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Re: so Roddenberry could talk Miss India into shaving her hair

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No problems with Scotty growing a moustache, and his increase in girth between the first two films actually supports the canon timeline's assertion that the films take place over a decade apart....
Unfortunately, his further increase in girth between Trek III and Trek IV makes it harder to believe they take place within mere months of each other.
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Old May 27 2013, 05:43 AM   #17
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Re: so Roddenberry could talk Miss India into shaving her hair

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No problems with Scotty growing a moustache, and his increase in girth between the first two films actually supports the canon timeline's assertion that the films take place over a decade apart....
Unfortunately, his further increase in girth between Trek III and Trek IV makes it harder to believe they take place within mere months of each other.
He must have eaten a lot of haggis during that time.

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Sometimes people grow facial hair.
Especially in the Mirror Universe!
I think they're born with it...
Mirror Spock was born with a beard?

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Didn't bother me. I mean, people grow mustaches and shave them off sometimes. Rumor has it people even change their hairstyles sometimes--even in the 23rd century.
Sometimes they even change their toupees.

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Old May 27 2013, 05:37 PM   #18
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Re: so Roddenberry could talk Miss India into shaving her hair

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McCoy had a beard and shaved it for military duty.
That probably wasn't his motivation for shaving. Riker, LaForge and even Data were seen with beards.

Plus, I believe in the year the movie came out military personnel in the US Navy could still wear beards.

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Old May 27 2013, 11:20 PM   #19
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Re: so Roddenberry could talk Miss India into shaving her hair

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An aside: I remain puzzled by the growing use of the term "facial hair" as opposed beard, mustache, whiskers, sideburns, etc. "Facial hair" strikes me as something that originated in cosmetic industry ads aimed at women: "removes unwanted facial hair".
I say beard when I mean beard. I say mustache when I mean mustache. "Facial hair" covers all varieties. If you can think of a better term, let me know!
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Old May 27 2013, 11:43 PM   #20
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Re: so Roddenberry could talk Miss India into shaving her hair

Well, in the past "beard" usually meant the "hair that grows on a man's face often" but not necessarily "excluding the mustache" (Merriam Webster), and whisker meant a hair of the beard, ergo whisker=facial hair. The other terms seem like they were used when you shaved part of the beard away and left some subsection, e.g. sideburns, muttonchops, mustache, circle beard, goatee, what have you, but it was all part of the beard.
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Old May 28 2013, 02:24 AM   #21
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It never occurred to me that some people might not recognize Scotty, but of course some of us had been prepared in advance:

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Old May 28 2013, 02:29 AM   #22
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They should CGI it away. I'm not kidding.
Sadly enough, I believe you.
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Re: so Roddenberry could talk Miss India into shaving her hair

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but he couldnt talk Doohan to shave that moustache?

That was an obvious and avoidable visual continuity break I think. I'm serious. 10 years of ageing for the actors and all the prduction value added to TMP related to the series, I couldn't recognize Scotty in the movie. I was like, who's that guy?

In comparision, McCoy had a beard and shaved it for military duty.
Are you kidding, guy? Scotty's mustache was awesome!
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Old May 28 2013, 02:57 AM   #24
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The 'stache is canon.
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Old May 28 2013, 02:58 AM   #25
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Well, in the past "beard" usually meant the "hair that grows on a man's face often" but not necessarily "excluding the mustache" (Merriam Webster), and whisker meant a hair of the beard, ergo whisker=facial hair.
"Castro has a beard. Rasputin had a beard. Gabby Hayes had whiskers!"

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Old May 28 2013, 01:19 PM   #26
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Re: so Roddenberry could talk Miss India into shaving her hair

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They should CGI it away. I'm not kidding.
Sadly enough, I believe you.
I dont know what exactly saddens you, but it's either you love moustaches or hates CGI. I'd guess it's CGI. So many people don't like CGI these days.
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Old May 28 2013, 01:26 PM   #27
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It never occurred to me that some people might not recognize Scotty, but of course some of us had been prepared in advance:

That's news to me. Just watched some on youtube. Funny. (extra funny for the repeated use by Filmation of the same sound effects and music from TAS and theur other productions ).
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Old May 29 2013, 09:23 AM   #28
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Re: so Roddenberry could talk Miss India into shaving her hair

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Well, in the past "beard" usually meant the "hair that grows on a man's face often" but not necessarily "excluding the mustache" (Merriam Webster), and whisker meant a hair of the beard, ergo whisker=facial hair. The other terms seem like they were used when you shaved part of the beard away and left some subsection, e.g. sideburns, muttonchops, mustache, circle beard, goatee, what have you, but it was all part of the beard.
Well, sure, but when you're talking about the wide variety of styles, you wouldn't say "beard." A mustache isn't a type of beard. Sideburns aren't a type of beard.

Whiskers just sounds...dumb. Cats have whiskers. If you were to describe a man's facial hair as "whiskers," I'd picture something very thing and scraggly coming out of his cheeks.
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Old May 29 2013, 09:42 AM   #29
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I couldn't recognize Scotty in the movie.
Really? He's the one with the moustache.
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Old May 29 2013, 10:49 AM   #30
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Re: so Roddenberry could talk Miss India into shaving her hair

Is it wrong that I sometimes wish 3rd-season Scotty had the moustache as well?
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