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Star Trek Movies XI+ Discuss J.J. Abrams' rebooted Star Trek here.

View Poll Results: Grade the movie...
A+ 144 19.17%
A 161 21.44%
A- 101 13.45%
B+ 83 11.05%
B 59 7.86%
B- 27 3.60%
C+ 40 5.33%
C 38 5.06%
C- 25 3.33%
D+ 11 1.46%
D 13 1.73%
D- 10 1.33%
F 39 5.19%
Voters: 751. You may not vote on this poll

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Old May 27 2013, 03:13 PM   #3736
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Yeah, you've got to figure that most fans account for more than one ticket sold. I've gone to three showings with six people, and you could only call three of them other than me "fans."
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Old May 27 2013, 03:45 PM   #3737
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There's nothing interesting about that kind of fanboy ranting, sorry. Since reviews are running about nine to one positive for this flick, whatever little damage a bad fan review might do to some hypothetical movie is completely meaningless here.
Interestingly, along with high critical ratings and fan ratings in general, the site known for STID "bashing" rates an 8.3 from audiences, and ST09 is rated an 8.1.
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Old May 27 2013, 04:22 PM   #3738
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I went to see STID with my best friend at Saturday's 1:10 pm showing in Jasper, AL, and, including myself and my friend, there were exactly six people in the theater. For the sake of the prestige of the Star Trek brand, I was hoping the film would do better than this.
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Old May 27 2013, 05:10 PM   #3739
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Old May 27 2013, 05:36 PM   #3740
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That 1-pm-on-Saturday Jasper, AL constituency is harsh, man.
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Old May 27 2013, 07:01 PM   #3741
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How do we know that's not a significant percentage of the total population of Jasper, AL?
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Old May 27 2013, 07:40 PM   #3742
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If you are a fan of Star Trek, then automatically you are a fanboy and a fangirl. This name calling doesn't help anyone.
That wasn't name-calling, and "fanboy ranting" is both a reasonably accurate and a remarkably concise description of the content of at least three of the four reviews to which his remark was being addressed.
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Old May 27 2013, 08:03 PM   #3743
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Well, late to the party, and I just can't make a determination about the movie (I gave it a B-). A lot of you, from the poll anyway, seemed to really like it. I can't decide, maybe I will have a better take after my second viewing. Plenty of action, decent humor. Fairly interesting story. I had guessed right about Cumberbatch's identity. As others have mentioned, the whiter than white 'batch playing (SPOILER ALERT)


Kahn took me back a little, but it is a movie after all. I just was hoping for a little more substance. The question is, with studios demanding the big payday from franchises like Trek, will we ever see a truly substantive Trek film.

Anyway, as I mentioned, a lot of you seemed to really like this movie. Would you point out to me what you saw as making it so enjoyable to you? Maybe you could help sway me from thinking it was mediocore to seeing something about it that I missed. Thanks.
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Old May 27 2013, 08:11 PM   #3744
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Anyway, as I mentioned, a lot of you seemed to really like this movie. Would you point out to me what you saw as making it so enjoyable to you? Maybe you could help sway me from thinking it was mediocore to seeing something about it that I missed. Thanks.
I loved the character growth in this film for Kirk. I loved that they actually took a stand on some issues. I loved the effects. I loved the job Cumberbatch did. I loved the Klingons. I loved the action-sequences.

Does the story have some issues? Yes. Absolutely.
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Old May 27 2013, 08:17 PM   #3745
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Anyway, as I mentioned, a lot of you seemed to really like this movie. Would you point out to me what you saw as making it so enjoyable to you? Maybe you could help sway me from thinking it was mediocore to seeing something about it that I missed. Thanks.
I loved the character growth in this film for Kirk. I loved that they actually took a stand on some issues. I loved the effects. I loved the job Cumberbatch did. I loved the Klingons. I loved the action-sequences.

Does the story have some issues? Yes. Absolutely.
I actually agree with you on all these points. I really am having a hard time pointing out what bugged me about this film as compared to ST09, which I loved. Its like something was missing, but I can't put my finger on it. Maybe my second viewing will enlighten me.
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Old May 27 2013, 08:21 PM   #3746
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I actually agree with you on all these points. I really am having a hard time pointing out what bugged me about this film as compared to ST09, which I loved. Its like something was missing, but I can't put my finger on it. Maybe my second viewing will enlighten me.
I think it might have been stronger if they had dug a bit more in Marcus' plan and Khan's backstory. But doing either of those things would've simply opened them up to more criticism if it didn't exactly match what some people had in their heads.

So that is kind of a "damned if they do, damned if they don't" scenario.
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Old May 27 2013, 08:23 PM   #3747
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Yep. Suppose they'd showed a couple of seconds of a Botany Bay that didn't resemble the TOS model enough to satisfy the hard core. Sacrilege!
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Old May 27 2013, 08:32 PM   #3748
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I actually agree with you on all these points. I really am having a hard time pointing out what bugged me about this film as compared to ST09, which I loved. Its like something was missing, but I can't put my finger on it. Maybe my second viewing will enlighten me.
I think it might have been stronger if they had dug a bit more in Marcus' plan and Khan's backstory. But doing either of those things would've simply opened them up to more criticism if it didn't exactly match what some people had in their heads.

So that is kind of a "damned if they do, damned if they don't" scenario.
Also true. I think the problem is that I didn't feel an emotional payoff from this film like I got from the first one. Kirk's "death" scene didn't do it for me, nor did the ensuing hospital room scene. I got a little charge from the beginning of the five year mission. That may be where I feel the movie fell a little short.
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Old May 27 2013, 08:38 PM   #3749
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How do we know that's not a significant percentage of the total population of Jasper, AL?
In 2010 Jasper had about 14,000 people. That is over twice the population of the little town I live in. There's no movie theater in my town, so it was a choice of driving to Jasper or Tupelo, MS. One of the theater employees told my friend that STID wasn't doing that well. I saw the 2009 film at the same theater, and there was a much larger crowd at the Saturday afternoon matinee I attended then.
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Old May 27 2013, 08:43 PM   #3750
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Fortunately, the national numbers belie your experience in Jasper.
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