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Old May 26 2013, 10:38 PM   #61
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At the convention, Rene said he was asked to do an appearance on one of the last six. He said he was going to try to do it, but his schedule was tight.
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Old May 26 2013, 10:51 PM   #62
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It's for the best. I enjoy it, but it's pure 'fluff' and it wouldn't do to outstay it's welcome. Enough's enough...
Okay, I have to ask: What's wrong with "fluff"? Singin' in the Rain is fluff. A Night in the Opera is fluff. North by Northwest is fluff.

There's no rule that says that genre shows have to be deep and serious to deserve a long run. I can think of a lot of "non-fluffy" shows that I'm going to miss less than WH13.
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Old May 26 2013, 11:18 PM   #63
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It's for the best. I enjoy it, but it's pure 'fluff' and it wouldn't do to outstay it's welcome. Enough's enough...
Okay, I have to ask: What's wrong with "fluff"? Singin' in the Rain is fluff. A Night in the Opera is fluff. North by Northwest is fluff.

There's no rule that says that genre shows have to be deep and serious to deserve a long run. I can think of a lot of "non-fluffy" shows that I'm going to miss less than WH13.
OK, this is not a hard and fast thing, but a general feeling I have, but WH13 in this instance, and for another example, Chuck, have pretty much exhausted their permutations by about the third season. You can putter along doing much the same thing for a season or two more but...I enjoyed both, but it was time to go. I felt the same about 'non-fluffy' Lost but was invested enough to stay to the disappointing end whereas I may not with WH13.

I must admit that there is always the chance that the creators will have a resurgence and seasons 6 onwards could be outstanding, but it's unlikely.

YMMV.
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Old May 27 2013, 12:54 AM   #64
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Fair enough. Certainly we can all think of shows that were running on fumes near the end, although, personally, I'm not convinced that comedic shows have shorter expiration dates than more dramatic ones.

In general, trying to figure out when to pull the plug is easier said than done. Shows tend to overstay their welcome (hello, X-Files) or end too soon (Firefly, we hardly knew ye), but hitting it just right? That's a rare accomplishment. (I'm having trouble thinking of a good example right now.)

To me, Warehouse 13 still seems to have plenty of juice left, but, of course, that's a judgment call.
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Old May 27 2013, 01:02 AM   #65
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Hitting it just right is the real trick, and rarely done.

Anyone got any examples ?
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Old May 27 2013, 01:07 AM   #66
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Hitting it just right is the real trick, and rarely done.

Anyone got any examples ?
I admit I was stumped. I briefly considered suggesting TNG, but there's an ongoing thread on this very board debating whether it was cancelled too soon!

Maybe XENA? I loved it dearly, but even I thought it was starting to run out of steam in its final season. Did it end right on time--or one season too late?
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Old May 27 2013, 04:10 AM   #67
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Xena ended "on time"... although I wouldn't have minded a reunion movie (or THREE) over the first 5 years after it ended.

"The Pretender" was an example of a show that ended too soon. Although it DID get 2 reunion films, they were NOT enough to satisfy the hard core (me!) fans.

WHY did that old woman have to walk in on Jarod and Miss Parker at THAT moment??????
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Old May 27 2013, 09:29 AM   #68
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Warehouse 13 isn't fluff; it's a good, solid adventure show. The term fluff implies useless filler-- that's applicable to infomercials and reality shows.

As for when is the right time to cancel a show-- there is none. There will always be people who want to keep watching and people who don't (although it's a lot easier to stop watching when a show is still on the air than it is to keep watching when it's off).

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At the convention, Rene said he was asked to do an appearance on one of the last six. He said he was going to try to do it, but his schedule was tight.
That would be nice. I'd like to see all the major recurring characters show up at the end if possible.
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Old May 27 2013, 01:04 PM   #69
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Warehouse 13 isn't fluff; it's a good, solid adventure show. The term fluff implies useless filler-- that's applicable to infomercials and reality shows.
That's certainly not what I intended. I meant lightweight, enjoyable, non too serious family fayre.

I have another word for what you describe. It starts with 'sh'...
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Old May 27 2013, 04:30 PM   #70
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Hitting it just right is the real trick, and rarely done.

Anyone got any examples ?
How about The West Wing (non-genre, obviously) or Buffy?

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Old May 27 2013, 04:54 PM   #71
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How about The West Wing (non-genre, obviously) or Buffy?

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I've heard people argue that Buffy should have ended with Season Five. Not sure I agree with that (we would have lost the musical ep, which is sublime), but I'm not sure anybody thinks Season Seven was the show at its peak . . ..
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Old May 27 2013, 09:07 PM   #72
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Warehouse 13 isn't fluff; it's a good, solid adventure show. The term fluff implies useless filler-- that's applicable to infomercials and reality shows.
That's certainly not what I intended. I meant lightweight, enjoyable, non too serious family fayre.

I have another word for what you describe. It starts with 'sh'...
Gotcha.
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Old May 28 2013, 12:11 AM   #73
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Anyone got any examples ?
How about The West Wing (non-genre, obviously) or Buffy?

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There are good arguments to be made that WW should have ended when Sorkin left after 4 seasons. And other arguments that the show had refound its groove in season 7 and there should have been a Santos or Vinick Whitehouse.

As others have said, you will always find people who think a show lasted too long and people who think the same show should have kept going.
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Old May 28 2013, 06:28 PM   #74
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Spartacus also ended at the right time on a high note.

Although a spin off series about Ceasar and Roman Triumvirates would be most welcome.
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I've always felt like DS9 ended precisely where it should have. There were more stories it could have told but they'd really been doing so well for several seasons at that point that it's difficult for me to imagine a non-war season successfully scrambling together a similar strength after the creators had gotten so good at the gloom.
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