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Old May 26 2013, 07:03 PM   #16
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Re: Favourite to least favourite Trek movies and series

Third Nacelle made a nice addition. I, too, find Trek better on TV.
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Old May 26 2013, 07:04 PM   #17
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Re: Favourite to least favourite Trek movies and series

Series:
Original
DS9
Next Generation (although it's first in nostalgia, I was 5-6 when it premiered and would watch it with my dad.)

Haven't seen the others yet.

Movies:
The Voyage Home (see: nostalgia)
Wrath of Khan
The Undiscovered Country
First Contact
SFS
Generations with Rifftrax

The rest are about equal, and I haven't seen the Abrams ones.
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Old May 26 2013, 07:30 PM   #18
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Re: Favourite to least favourite Trek movies and series

If I was to fairly grade everything on an equal scale, it would probably look something like:

Series:
The Original Series
A

The Next Generation
A-/B+

Deep Space Nine
B+

Voyager
B-

Enterprise
C+

The Animated Series
C


Movies:
The Wrath of Khan
B+/A-

Star Trek into Darkness
B+

Star Trek
B+

The Motion Picture
B

The Voyage Home
B

First Contact
B-

The Undiscovered Country
B-

Generations:
C+

The Search for Spock
C+

The Final Frontier
C

Insurrection
C

Nemesis
C-
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Old May 26 2013, 09:39 PM   #19
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Re: Favourite to least favourite Trek movies and series

TV:
  1. TOS
  2. TNG
  3. TAS
  4. VOY
  5. ENT
  6. DS9

Movies:
  1. TMP
  2. TUC
  3. TVH
  4. TWOK
  5. TSFS
  6. FC
  7. INS
  8. TFF
  9. ST09
  10. NEM
  11. GEN ....and I haven't seen STID yet.
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Old May 26 2013, 10:22 PM   #20
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Re: Favourite to least favourite Trek movies and series

Ouch. DS9 below Voyager. That's hurtful to me.
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Old May 26 2013, 10:49 PM   #21
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Series:
1. Deep Space Nine Just an awesome show. It has its stinkers like any show but excellent characters and story arcs really carry this show and elevate it above other Trek series for my money.

2. The Next Generation This is the Trek I grew up on and would race home each night after school to catch on TV. I had the books, the t-shirts, the toys etc

I recently gave the whole thing a rewatch and fortunately it's still pretty darn good and my spectacles weren't too rose-tinted...

3. The Original Series This is my go to show and the one I can watch even when having missed half the episode. There's just something about it that renders me unable to change the channel when it's on regardless of how many times I've seen the episode...

4. Enterprise This show was disappointing but they had some likeable characters and although much of the later stuff was dismissed as a bit too fan wanky, I enjoyed it.

5. Voyager Just.... shit. In every conceivable way.

Movies:
1. Star Trek II: The Wrath of Khan Actually my favourite movie as a kid and it wasn't until I started browsing internet forums and movie boards that I realised how well regarded a movie it was. It is pretty brilliant.

2. Star Trek VI: The Undiscovered Country This is in second place for now. It's a movie were I appreciate the things it didn't do wrong more than what it did right which is kinda strange but whatever.

3. Star Trek: First Contact I have few issues with this one. Yes, there are some glaring plot holes (name a Trek movie without) but the benefit of having been with these characters for 7 series and a movie puts me in a forgiving mood. Loved seeing the Defiant as a bonus.

4. Star Trek IV: The Voyage Home This is like a Sunday afternoon film. A fun romp with a decent message. The Trek movie that you'd watch with your mum whilst round for tea.

5. Star Trek V: The Final Frontier Honestly. I like it a lot : /

6. Star Trek III: The Search for Spock I like most of this movie but I wasn't into the Saavik recast (why even use her character at all? She isn't even in the first scene when they return home from fighting Khan so she could have easily been a different character) and some of the Genesis scenes bored me as a kid but there are some cool spaceships and Lloyd is a great Klingon bad guy : )

7. Star Trek: Generations What a miss-step. As if they had Kirk and Picard making eggs and riding around on horses. It's got some charm to it but it's like watching a terrible mid-90s Trek novel.

8. Star Trek: The Motion Picture I like this film a lot but it's a chore to watch sometimes and I'm not into some of the crazy late 70s wing collars and flares uniforms so looks kinda dated, more so than the other films.

9. Star Trek: Insurrection It's just an inoffensive TNG two-parter really.

10. Star Trek: Nemesis Kicking off Star Trek's bad guy in a huge spaceship trilogy is Nemesis. Some crazy decisions (no mention of Lore? Picard clone, really?) and some retconning of the film taking place within the film itself really lets it down. The ships crashing into each other was cool though.

11. Star Trek "Boo! Hiss! You're just a JJ hater!" Actually, I'm an Orci and Kurtzman hater but that's besides the point. Red matter that either sends you back in time or creates black holes depending on what the plot calls for is one of many issues I have this one. Unlike some of the TOS and TNG movies the cast - whilst fine for the most part - are unable to charm their way through this one.
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Old May 26 2013, 11:55 PM   #22
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Re: Favourite to least favourite Trek movies and series

Belz... wrote: View Post
Ouch. DS9 below Voyager. That's hurtful to me.
Doesn't mean I don't love it! There IS no bad Trek to me.

....well...
except Generations....
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Old May 27 2013, 12:00 AM   #23
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Re: Favourite to least favourite Trek movies and series

TOS - My favorite TV show period. Everything about it just seems to match my personal taste perfectly.

TNG- A wonderful continuation of TOS's themes with a wonderful new cast. TOS is my preference but I can't really argue with people who prefer this one.

DS9- This really felt like the conclusion of Trek to me, with Voyager stuck off in the Delta Quadrant and Enterprise being a prequel. Wonderful series. I was skeptical of this show before I started watching it but it ended up being about as good as TNG.

TAS- I love the TOS cast, and it was wonderful to see them in new adventures. The animation was rarely exciting, but some of the stories were cool and It was more of the big three.

Enterprise- It was.....ok. I'm not a huge fan, but I like what I've seen of the show. Some of the characters aren't interesting, and by this point the plots are a bit stale. That said, I liked the designs of everything and I mostly buy it as a prequel. It's not great....but very watchable.

....big drop....

I don't like Voyager. At it's very best it was watchable. Most of the time it was awful. My best friend still laughs at my "Voyager headaches" that happen whenever he puts on an episode. Yep, this show causes actual pain to me.

Movies- I'm going to separate by TOS and TNG. generally speaking TOS>TNG

TOS- TWOK
TSFS
TMP
TUC
TVH
TFF

TNG- First Contact
Generations
Nemesis
Insurrection

Not a fan of J.J. Trek.
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Old May 27 2013, 12:28 AM   #24
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Re: Favourite to least favourite Trek movies and series

I definitely prefer the shows to the movies.

Shows
1) DS9
2) TNG
3) VOY
4) TOS
5) ENT

Movies
1) GEN
2) TSFS
3) TMP
4) TVH
5) 09
6) STID
7) TUC
8) FC

The next 4 (TWOK, TFF, INS, NEM) are a toss up for me, not sure how to rank them.
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Old May 28 2013, 01:43 PM   #25
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Re: Favourite to least favourite Trek movies and series

TV Series
TNG
VOY
TOS
ENT
DS9

Movies
Wrath of Khan
First Contact
Into Darkness
Star Trek (2009)
Undiscovered Country
Generations
Voyage Home
Search for Spock
Insurrection
The Final Frontier
Nemesis
The Motion Picture
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Old May 29 2013, 07:00 AM   #26
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Re: Favourite to least favourite Trek movies and series

The shows are pretty much a lock for me, and I just include TAS as a short but funky extension to TOS. The movies tend to jiggle around a bit in the middle of my list.

TV

1. The Original Series
2. Voyager
3. The Next Generation
4. Enterprise
5. Deep Space Nine

MOVIES

1. The Motion Picture
2. The Wrath Of Khan
3. The Voyage Home
4. The Search Spock
5. Into Darkness
6. The Undiscovered Country
7. Star Trek
8. Generations
9. First Contact
10. The Final Frontier
11. Insurrection
12. Nemesis
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Old May 29 2013, 07:12 AM   #27
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Re: Favourite to least favourite Trek movies and series

Current Listing (Always subject to change):

TV
Star Trek: Deep Space Nine*
Star Trek: The Original Series*
Star Trek: The Next Generation*
Star Trek: Enterprise
Star Trek: The Animated Series
Star Trek: Voyager

* - These are so close, as to be nearly even with one another.

MOVIES
Star Trek Into Darkness
Star Trek (2009)
Star Trek: The Voyage Home
Star Trek: First Contact
Star Trek: The Final Frontier
Star Trek: The Undiscovered Country
Star Trek: The Wrath of Khan
Star Trek: The Search for Spock
Star Trek: Generations
Star Trek: The Motion Picture
Star Trek: Insurrection
Star Trek: Nemesis

Every so often, one or two listings might trade places, but in general, it's been this way for a long time, save for the new additions, of course. The only really major change was when I moved Enterprise from 6th place to 4th for TV series. For movies, Star Trek: The Final Frontier is now 5th, where it used to be first, though that was before the two new movies, and before I owned all of the movies on DVD.

While I still thoroughly love it, it hasn't aged very well overall for me, and movies like Star Trek: First Contact have moved up slightly because they were well made, all-around, and it shows.
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