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Old May 25 2013, 06:29 PM   #16
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Rules of Engagement. From the ethical standpoint, one of the most disgusting movies ever made. Basically, the message is that a soldier is allowed to kill a bunch of civilians and that nobody should held him accountable for it, since, hey, he has it tough doing his job, OK? And that only other soldiers can understand him and will necessarily excuse him, while the lowly civilians have no right judging him for his war crimes.
Indeed, disgusting vile filth.
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Old May 25 2013, 06:37 PM   #17
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"Offend" is too strong a word, but I tend to be irked by movies like "Sweet Home Alabama" that suggest that small-town, salt-of-the-earth, country folk are somehow purer and more decent than those snobby, over-educated city slickers . . . .
That's interesting. I have a bit of the opposite feeling. I get irked by the films/shows where every cop in a small town not played by Andy Griffith or Don Knotts is somehow racist or corrupt and the townspeople are inherently rubes.

I guess we all tend to be a little protective of our backgrounds.

Movies like Sweet Home Alabama tend to irk me simply because they are formulaic crap.
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Old May 25 2013, 07:45 PM   #18
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"Offend" is too strong a word, but I tend to be irked by movies like "Sweet Home Alabama" that suggest that small-town, salt-of-the-earth, country folk are somehow purer and more decent than those snobby, over-educated city slickers . . . .
That's interesting. I have a bit of the opposite feeling. I get irked by the films/shows where every cop in a small town not played by Andy Griffith or Don Knotts is somehow racist or corrupt and the townspeople are inherently rubes.

I guess we all tend to be a little protective of our backgrounds.

I can see that.
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Old May 25 2013, 08:17 PM   #19
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I can't stand those "your home town is the place you are suppose to be and you forgot how good it was" - my home town is a shithole, I''d rather sell crack than go back there.
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Old May 25 2013, 08:37 PM   #20
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I can't stand those "your home town is the place you are suppose to be and you forgot how good it was" - my home town is a shithole, I''d rather sell crack than go back there.
Hell, I actually liked my hometown, but there's nothing wrong with pulling up your roots and moving somewhere else when the opportunity arises. I've been doing it every 10-15 years or so. Keeps life interesting.

And I think that, in general, it's good for young people to be reminded that the world is bigger than the town or neighborhood they grew up in. Getting out and seeing the world is generally a good thing.
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Old May 25 2013, 09:12 PM   #21
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Hell, I actually liked my hometown, but there's nothing wrong with pulling up your roots and moving somewhere else when the opportunity arises. I've been doing it every 10-15 years or so. Keeps life interesting.
One of the things I enjoyed about "Doc Hollywood" was when the Bridget Fonda and Woody Harrelson characters were allowed to move to LA even as the lead ended up going back to the small town. It was a nice illustration of your point.

(Even if I had a problem with what happened with the female lead in the same film)
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Old May 25 2013, 10:38 PM   #22
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I can't stand those "your home town is the place you are suppose to be and you forgot how good it was" - my home town is a shithole, I''d rather sell crack than go back there.
Hell, I actually liked my hometown, but there's nothing wrong with pulling up your roots and moving somewhere else when the opportunity arises. I've been doing it every 10-15 years or so. Keeps life interesting.

And I think that, in general, it's good for young people to be reminded that the world is bigger than the town or neighborhood they grew up in. Getting out and seeing the world is generally a good thing.
Bear in mind I'm an academic so I often have to watch a caricature of myself undergoing the highly simplistic "feel don't think" conversation process which is shown as a sign of growth in many films rather than a insulting false dilemma.
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Old May 26 2013, 12:24 AM   #23
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I don't get easily offended but one thing really gets me going.

Movies that play it very loose with the truth. Hollywood is really one of the biggest culprits there as it is very US centric going so far to distort truth and facts so that the US or american people can be the heroes whereas facts and history have it play out totally different.

Case in point is the movie "U571" about a US submarine in WW2 that managed to obtain an Enigma code machine from the Germans when in reality it was a british crew who did this way before the US entered the war.

I get the reason why Hollywood does this but it still irks me.
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Old May 26 2013, 12:44 AM   #24
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Well the film U-571 didn't go down that well in the UK. After all it was the crew HMS Bulldog who captured the first naval intact Enigma machine and code documents.

But it wasn't the first film to cause a minor stir in the UK esp. about WWII.
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Old May 26 2013, 12:57 AM   #25
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I can't recall a movie actually offending me. Are there movies I disdain? Certainly, but none have offended me.
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Old May 26 2013, 02:00 AM   #27
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I was offended by Crash.

A mix of "I wasted money renting this garbage" and literally hating every part of it. Yes, the human race sucks, but not everyone in the world is a racist pig.

One of the few movies I turned off without finishing.
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Old May 26 2013, 07:58 PM   #28
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I've just seen a trailer for a Brad Pitt film called World War Z. That really offended me. Zombies piling up like ants. What the fuck are they smoking? In general I don't like for zombie movies, but this is the most over the top zombie shit I've ever seen an advertisement for.
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Old May 26 2013, 08:00 PM   #29
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Regarding BigDaddy's thoughts on CRASH....

And yet, possibly the first time, and probably the only time, the most racist character was also the most heroic. Did you make it to the Thandie Newton/Matt Dillon moment prior to the turnoff?
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Old May 26 2013, 08:08 PM   #30
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It is one of those films that depend on your pre-existing views. Like Insurrection or Avatar, which simply don't work if you already think that removing natives for exploiting natural resources is okay, for example.
Every time this topic comes up in the Trek Movies forum, you get people coming out of the woodwork in support of that very viewpoint. They think the movie doesn't work because it should be ok that those people are asked to move. There were other problems with Inusrrection, but the fact that these people didn't want to leave their home is not one of them.
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