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Old May 24 2013, 03:13 AM   #16
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Re: Game of Thrones 3.8 - "Second Sons" - Rate and discuss

I finally got to see this episode.

Tyrion rocks (as always). Joffrey has just gotta die...preferably in some really disgusting way. That red headed witch creeps me out.
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Old May 24 2013, 03:15 AM   #17
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Joffrey has just gotta die...preferably in some really disgusting way.
His own crossbow would be a good way to start.
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Old May 24 2013, 06:07 AM   #18
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The moment was much less brave in the books as I recall. Basically an accident. I do think they leave it behind though, because it is in the puddle of melted Other and too cold to touch.
Yes it was an accident, there was pretty much zero bravery
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Old May 24 2013, 11:59 AM   #19
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Well, I wouldn't say "zero bravery"-- just to take a blind stab requires as much courage as Sam has. But it's an accident that he uses the dragonglass dagger and is able to kill it at all.
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Old May 24 2013, 12:57 PM   #20
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Well, hello there fellow GoTers. So I voted above average because, while I think this was a great episode (aren't they all?), it didn't wow me. That's not to take anything away from it because it was really great. I loved seeing the wedding, and I love the way Tyrion was with Sansa. I liked the little wordless exchange he and Shae had the morning after. And the conversation Margaery had with Cersei was interesting. Lots of good stuff happening.
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Old May 24 2013, 01:03 PM   #21
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Pick up the blade, you fat moron!!! You've no idea of how much dragonglass costs these days!
Yes it was too bad he did not pick up that dragonglass. It would have been really useful in case he meets more White Walkers.
That's what I was thinking. It's like, presence of mind, Sam. Presence of mind...


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Joffrey has just gotta die...preferably in some really disgusting way.
His own crossbow would be a good way to start.
Mmm, I'm thinking it would only be fair if he had his tongue ripped out first. Let him live with that for a little while, then give him the crossbow in the legs, and finally a humiliating beheadding after threatening to sneak into his bedchamber and rape him.
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Old May 24 2013, 03:13 PM   #22
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Joffrey has just gotta die...preferably in some really disgusting way.
His own crossbow would be a good way to start.
Mmm, I'm thinking it would only be fair if he had his tongue ripped out first. Let him live with that for a little while, then give him the crossbow in the legs, and finally a humiliating beheadding after threatening to sneak into his bedchamber and rape him.
When Mr. Sadist is done with Theon they can ship Joffrey up there. Should be fun.
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Old May 24 2013, 03:19 PM   #23
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His own crossbow would be a good way to start.
Mmm, I'm thinking it would only be fair if he had his tongue ripped out first. Let him live with that for a little while, then give him the crossbow in the legs, and finally a humiliating beheadding after threatening to sneak into his bedchamber and rape him.
When Mr. Sadist is done with Theon they can ship Joffrey up there. Should be fun.
Works for me. The thought makes me cringe, but in Joffrey's case some form of anal penetration could be in order, preferably something hefty...with splinters.
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I voted Above Average. It was interesting how the title came from the mercenary band but actually did centre on various second sons - Thannis and Tyrion (Sam was a firstborn but secondary in his father's affections.

Nice to see Ferdie from This Life (Ramon Tikarin) in there in the Second Sons, even if he was short-lived. I must admit that the cockney accents there threw me - I always imagined them being Arabic or Asian. The pay-off with the severed heads was great though.

The use of Gendry instead of Edric Stone is quite intriguing and could go somewhere (arguably, Gendry is getting a better storyline here than in the books), while Stephen Dillane and Liam Cunningham as Stannis and Davos work really well together.

The wedding was a hoot, as expected and I'm not sure what was my fave scene - Cersei v Margarey, Cersei v Loras or Tyrion v Joffrey. Actually, scratch that, it has to be TvJ (as always) but it was a close-fought thing. Meanwhile, it's clear that Arya and the Hound are going to be a great double act.
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Old May 24 2013, 04:26 PM   #25
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His own crossbow would be a good way to start.
Mmm, I'm thinking it would only be fair if he had his tongue ripped out first. Let him live with that for a little while, then give him the crossbow in the legs, and finally a humiliating beheadding after threatening to sneak into his bedchamber and rape him.
When Mr. Sadist is done with Theon they can ship Joffrey up there. Should be fun.
That's what I'm talking about. But, then who takes care of Mr. Sadist when he's done? He's far worse than Joffrey. Hmm, they should have that fallen Maester do experiments on him for a long, long time. I know he's loyal to house Bolton now, but he seemed to be more interested in his "curiosity."

I'm usually for life imprisonment, but sometimes I truly think the punishment should be the crime.

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I voted Above Average. It was interesting how the title came from the mercenary band but actually did centre on various second sons - Thannis and Tyrion (Sam was a firstborn but secondary in his father's affections.

Nice to see Ferdie from This Life (Ramon Tikarin) in there in the Second Sons, even if he was short-lived. I must admit that the cockney accents there threw me - I always imagined them being Arabic or Asian. The pay-off with the severed heads was great though.

The use of Gendry instead of Edric Stone is quite intriguing and could go somewhere (arguably, Gendry is getting a better storyline here than in the books), while Stephen Dillane and Liam Cunningham as Stannis and Davos work really well together.

The wedding was a hoot, as expected and I'm not sure what was my fave scene - Cersei v Margarey, Cersei v Loras or Tyrion v Joffrey. Actually, scratch that, it has to be TvJ (as always) but it was a close-fought thing. Meanwhile, it's clear that Arya and the Hound are going to be a great double act.
Yeah, poor Gendry. I was just happy she didn't kill him (yet?). I hope he escapes or something. When Arya becomes a faceless woman, I think that's when her story is really going to pick up.

I really like Cersei vs. Margaery, and I think Margaery's going to win that battle eventually with her grandmother's help. I also love how Tyrion is the only one that tells Joffrey off, and he manages to get away with it.
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That's what I'm talking about. But, then who takes care of Mr. Sadist when he's done? He's far worse than Joffrey.
Joffrey tortured and killed an 'innocent' woman with a crossbow just because he could.

I'd say they're on about equal footing.
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Old May 25 2013, 03:04 AM   #27
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I voted excellent. The Tyrion/Sansa wedding was a great sequence, especially Tyrion threatening Joffrey. Sam killing the white walker was another highlight. So far Daario is more likable than he was in the books, and Dany's nudity here, where she's still regal and in command, was a nice juxtaposition to her nudity where she's about to take a bath in the very first episode, which highlighted her vulnerability.
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That's what I'm talking about. But, then who takes care of Mr. Sadist when he's done? He's far worse than Joffrey.
Joffrey tortured and killed an 'innocent' woman with a crossbow just because he could.

I'd say they're on about equal footing.
If I remember correctly that innocent woman beat her colleague to death. Of course Joffrey told her to do so, but still...

Not so sure about that fallen maester. He's traveling to Kings Landing with Jamie, right? So Joffrey and fallen maester may eventually meet and exchange some tips Poor Sansa et al. when they decide to get some hands-on experience.
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That's what I'm talking about. But, then who takes care of Mr. Sadist when he's done? He's far worse than Joffrey.
Joffrey tortured and killed an 'innocent' woman with a crossbow just because he could.

I'd say they're on about equal footing.
Joffrey is really bad, but he's not Ramsey. He doesn't drag out the pain/torture for long periods of time, at least not as long as Ramsey to my knowledge. Ramsey skins people alive, and bit by bit, then chops off pieces one at a time. He's doing that to Theon in addition to starving him, psychologically torturing/brainwashing him, and making him live in his own filth.

Joffrey's evil, but he gets it over with, not because he's a better person, just because he bores quickly and wants to move on to the next thing (like a 5yr. old with a box of toys). So even though he's just as evil as Ramsey, he's not as bad. Very bad, just not quite as bad.


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I voted excellent. The Tyrion/Sansa wedding was a great sequence, especially Tyrion threatening Joffrey. Sam killing the white walker was another highlight. So far Daario is more likable than he was in the books, and Dany's nudity here, where she's still regal and in command, was a nice juxtaposition to her nudity where she's about to take a bath in the very first episode, which highlighted her vulnerability.
I hadn't thought about that. Good point.
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Joffrey is really bad, but he's not Ramsey. He doesn't drag out the pain/torture for long periods of time, at least not as long as Ramsey to my knowledge. Ramsey skins people alive, and bit by bit, then chops off pieces one at a time. He's doing that to Theon in addition to starving him, psychologically torturing/brainwashing him, and making him live in his own filth.

Joffrey's evil, but he gets it over with, not because he's a better person, just because he bores quickly and wants to move on to the next thing (like a 5yr. old with a box of toys). So even though he's just as evil as Ramsey, he's not as bad. Very bad, just not quite as bad.
Yet. He's a child, if he lives as long as Ramsay he will end up equally as bad.
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