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Star Trek Movies XI+ Discuss J.J. Abrams' rebooted Star Trek here.

View Poll Results: Grade the movie...
A+ 139 19.39%
A 157 21.90%
A- 98 13.67%
B+ 77 10.74%
B 58 8.09%
B- 27 3.77%
C+ 38 5.30%
C 37 5.16%
C- 23 3.21%
D+ 11 1.53%
D 13 1.81%
D- 6 0.84%
F 33 4.60%
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Old May 23 2013, 09:02 PM   #3541
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Re: STAR TREK INTO DARKNESS - Grading & Discussion [SPOILERS]

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The movie is a nearly flawless example of an Idiot Plot turned on its head - the heroes succeed at the end only because their competition and antagonists are too foolish to see and do the obvious.
What, specifically ?
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Old May 23 2013, 09:03 PM   #3542
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I haven't watched the end of TSFS in many years.

When Scotty says, "That or nothing," my finger just automatically presses stop.
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Old May 23 2013, 10:28 PM   #3543
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Seriously? TSFS is probably my second favorite TOS movie behind TWOK. I get the criticism of the fairly one-dimensional villains and fake Genesis planet, but the movie still has such an incredible atmosphere and sense of romance about it. The story is simple but compelling, it's got a ton of fun character moments, and it's got freakin Christopher LLoyd as a Klingon.

I seriously don't understand why fans have such a problem with it.
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Old May 23 2013, 10:36 PM   #3544
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I thought ST III was great. I had never seen Taxi so that was my first time seeing Christopher Lloyd, and I thought he owned the role of Kruge.

And not only that, but John Larroquette as a Klingon as well. How cool is that?

(One of my favorite bits in the whole film, actually, is when Kirk first finds out that David is dead and he just sort of staggers back against the command chair. I don't think I've ever seen Kirk more defeated than that.)
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Old May 23 2013, 10:56 PM   #3545
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TSFS is almost unwatchable for me, but I watch it anyway. Godawful IMO but still full of Trek lore. And I will always enjoy seeing the TOS characters in the films.
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Old May 23 2013, 11:02 PM   #3546
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TSFS is almost unwatchable for me, but I watch it anyway. Godawful IMO but still full of Trek lore. And I will always enjoy seeing the TOS characters in the films.
It's not THAT bad.

It had nice moments. Some decent visuals too, especially the space dock scenes.
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Old May 23 2013, 11:08 PM   #3547
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The Bird of Prey never seemed more menacing than it did in that movie.
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Old May 23 2013, 11:57 PM   #3548
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Last night my dreams all had the piano music from STID in the background of them.

... such a haunting piece

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Old May 24 2013, 12:55 AM   #3549
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I loved STIII.
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Old May 24 2013, 02:04 AM   #3550
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I haven't watched the end of TSFS in many years.

When Scotty says, "That or nothing," my finger just automatically presses stop.
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Old May 24 2013, 02:23 AM   #3551
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I've been thinking. I would've liked it better if Kirk had been learning all this time (end of the first movie to this one), was first officer, and then Pike dies. Nero puts him on the Enterprise. I think the emotional beats of having to go against Admiral Marcus (a father-type figure), of having to decipher whether to trust Harrison or not, I think it all works better if he hasn't tasted the chair yet. It felt like it was 5 minutes between being busted down to the Academy before he was Captain again. And that's what was playing in my head during Pike's dress-down. I think they screwed up with the ending of '09.

Just an idea.
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Old May 24 2013, 02:34 AM   #3552
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I haven't watched the end of TSFS in many years.

When Scotty says, "That or nothing," my finger just automatically presses stop.
That scene (last couple minutes of the movie) got two great laughs in the theater. The first was when McCoy pointed to his head. The second was when Spock raised his eyebrow.

I thought it was OK. The captain of the Excelsior was made to be too much the preening fool. Things were sometimes too easy for our heroes. They never really seemed to be in real danger. But this is hardly the only Trek movie with quibbles.

This was the first real ensemble Trek movie where everyone had something important to do and good character moments, too, a story format all Trek movies (TOS and TNG) followed after that.
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Old May 24 2013, 02:48 AM   #3553
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The captain of the Excelsior was made to be too much the preening fool.
And yet he has the best alternative to "ahead warp factor X" and "engage !" : EXECUTE !
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Old May 24 2013, 02:50 AM   #3554
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TSFS had really great character moments and all the crew got something to do and showed they really cared about each other and Spock. The Enterprise got blown up and McCoy says that great line whilst stood on a mountain watching the ashes of the Enterprise streak across the sky...

Spacedock escape, Kirk vs Kruge in the midst of a disintegrating planet. The Klingons murdering David, Pon Farr!, Self Destruct sequence. Vulcan scenes, the Excelsior, Grissom, BoP. So much was added to the Trek universe. Its great!
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Old May 24 2013, 03:25 AM   #3555
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What's remarkable is that no one gives a fuck now about either A Very Brady Christmas or The Search For Spock.
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I also agree that once they leave Genesis, it's Snoozeville.
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God, that movie was awful.
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When Scotty says, "That or nothing," my finger just automatically presses stop.
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TSFS is almost unwatchable for me, but I watch it anyway. Godawful IMO but still full of Trek lore.


I'm sending you all to the Federation Funny Farm. I love STIII.

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