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Old May 23 2013, 11:56 PM   #856
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Fox has the rights to "Fantastic Four" and "X-Men" as long they continue to develop them into feature films, yes. Same thing with Sony Pictures and "Spider-Man". Neither of them will relinquish or sell off these rights as long as they're making truck loads of cash with them.


Also Marvel wasn't "stupid" about anything...they were in bankruptcy and needed the cash and these character rights were very valuable assets.
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Old May 24 2013, 12:01 AM   #857
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The one thing that really annoys me...

He's shooting first, so presumably, he will win the showdown in terms of being the first to define the character on film. Marvel has larger plans for the character, though, and wants to use him for more than just one action sequence.
A huge weakness with all the X-men movies are the characters that make an appearance just because of an action scene and are never mentioned again. Joss was actually going to make Quicksilver a prominent member of the Avengers. I really hope QS in DOFP doesn't discourage Joss from using QS and and Scarlett Witch in Avengers 2.
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Old May 24 2013, 12:05 AM   #858
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Fox has the rights to "Fantastic Four" and "X-Men" as long they continue to develop them into feature films, yes. Same thing with Sony Pictures and "Spider-Man". Neither of them will relinquish or sell off these rights as long as they're making truck loads of cash with them.


Also Marvel wasn't "stupid" about anything...they were in bankruptcy and needed the cash and these character rights were very valuable assets.
Still, who gives up the rights to their characters in a big form of media basically forever? I guess, from what you say, they didn't have much choice, but you'd think they would have put some kind of time limit on the rights, even if its a few decades.

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The one thing that really annoys me...


He's shooting first, so presumably, he will win the showdown in terms of being the first to define the character on film. Marvel has larger plans for the character, though, and wants to use him for more than just one action sequence.

A huge weakness with all the X-men movies are the characters that make an appearance just because of an action scene and are never mentioned again. Joss was actually going to make Quicksilver a prominent member of the Avengers. I really hope QS in DOFP doesn't discourage Joss from using QS and and Scarlett Witch in Avengers 2.

Yeah, that kind of thing sucks. I was really ticked off by Colossus in X3. I like the character, but he got literally one line the entire movie. Hopefully Whedon will be able to use the characters, as much as I'm excited for DOFP, he'll probably use them better than the X-men movie will.
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Old May 24 2013, 12:15 AM   #859
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I don't see why they'd be concerned about it. If Fox is going to be a dick about it, just flat out ignore their franchise and focus on their own.

Until they get the rights back and can actually add them back into their franchise, why even pretend that the two are related?
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Old May 24 2013, 12:20 AM   #860
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The one thing that really annoys me...

He's shooting first, so presumably, he will win the showdown in terms of being the first to define the character on film. Marvel has larger plans for the character, though, and wants to use him for more than just one action sequence.
A huge weakness with all the X-men movies are the characters that make an appearance just because of an action scene and are never mentioned again. Joss was actually going to make Quicksilver a prominent member of the Avengers. I really hope QS in DOFP doesn't discourage Joss from using QS and and Scarlett Witch in Avengers 2.
Maybe QS and SW only appear in an alternate DOFP timeline? That way, both Singer and Wheden can do whatever they want with the characters without stepping on each other's toes.
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Old May 24 2013, 12:22 AM   #861
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They're both supposed to be able to use them without any problems, so I don't see why this has to become a messy situation...unless Fox is just being their douchey self.
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Old May 24 2013, 12:27 AM   #862
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Pretty funny how each director announced their Quicksilver news

Two weeks ago:

Joss Whedon: I've got a brother and sister duo I wanna use for Avengers 2. There aren't many brother/sister heroes out there, right? Wink wink!

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Bryan Singer: HEY, WE GOT QUICKSILVER IN THE NEXT X-MEN MOVIE WE'VE BEEN FILMING FOR A MONTH OR SO.
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Old May 24 2013, 12:52 AM   #863
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I think this is the most interesting part of the article

This is the first time this has happened, and there is still time for Fox to blink. If they push forward and allow Singer to include the character, there's a chance they're burning down any future cooperation with Marvel, who have proven themselves to be hard negotiators who aren't afraid to flex whatever muscle they have.
Is FOX doing this just to spite Disney?
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Old May 24 2013, 12:53 AM   #864
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I doubt it's first-come-first-serve. It's far more likely that it's just overlapping rights.
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Feige already said that both Marvel Studios and FOX can use the characters, so I'm not seeing what the issue/dispute here is.
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Old May 24 2013, 02:59 AM   #866
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Feige already said that both Marvel Studios and FOX can use the characters, so I'm not seeing what the issue/dispute here is.
The problem isn't that FOX is using Quicksilver.

The problem is that they are giving him a pointless action scene role, right after Joss announced he was planning to use Quicksilver as a prominent character in Avengers 2. Also Fox shoehorns in as many X-characters in as they can whether they have personalities or not. This has become a major problem for the films. It feels like FOX is only doing it to spite Disney, giving QS a pointless role and leaving Joss to pick up the pieces.
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^ Still not seeing the issue here, as, again, both studios can legally use the characters; it doesn't matter in what capacity they're used by one studio as opposed to the other; the only restriction is that Marvel can't refer to them as mutants or mention their connection to Magneto, which isn't that big of a deal anyway.
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^^ "A pointless action scene role"? What? We don't even know how Singer is going to use him in the film. Also this is Singer so he's not just going to be using Pietro just because. This isn't the same Fox reigme as it was before since Tom Rothman departed.
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Old May 24 2013, 03:07 AM   #869
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^ Still not seeing the issue here, as, again, both studios can legally use the characters; it doesn't matter in what capacity they're used by one studio as opposed to the other.
There is also a fear that with Singer using QS now, Joss might be pressured to drop the character by Disney to avoid confusion in Avengers 2. If this results in no Scarlet Witch in Avengers 2, I will be very disappointed.
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^ Once again, I'm not seeing the issue. Feige said both studios can use the characters; he put no caveats on that use beyond the one I already mentioned with regards to the word mutant and the characters' connection to Magneto.
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