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Star Trek Movies XI+ Discuss J.J. Abrams' rebooted Star Trek here.

View Poll Results: Grade the movie...
A+ 144 19.28%
A 161 21.55%
A- 101 13.52%
B+ 83 11.11%
B 58 7.76%
B- 27 3.61%
C+ 40 5.35%
C 38 5.09%
C- 25 3.35%
D+ 11 1.47%
D 13 1.74%
D- 10 1.34%
F 36 4.82%
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Old May 23 2013, 01:35 AM   #3511
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Re: STAR TREK INTO DARKNESS - Grading & Discussion [SPOILERS]

I made this for someone just as a joke.

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Old May 23 2013, 03:00 AM   #3512
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Can I steal that, Amasov?
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Old May 23 2013, 03:57 AM   #3513
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The ST:TMP novelization was pretty terrible. Did we ever find out who actually ghostwrote it? Too early for the Reeves-Stevenses.
Marshak and Culbreath?
That's REALLY funny. Did you ever read how back in 78 Shatner wished they'd use THE PRICE OF THE PHOENIX as the basis for the first film?

No,I don't think anybody overuses italics quite like they're trotted out in TMP novelization. If you just changed it all to caps, it would seem like the way they include Roddenberry's comments in THE MAKING OF STAR TREK book.

Since GR really didn't have much to do besides give occasional notes on the rough cuts for the better part of a year, and on account of how awful most of it reads, I have never doubted he wrote it. It certainly reflects some of his interests, and very specifically it reflects all the Von Puttkamer tech advisor influence on the space travel aspect, which is also present in the GR draft of IN THY IMAGE (maybe the ONLY thing in his draft that is really an improvement.)

But it would have been nice to have a published novel version of THE GOD THING written by him as a basis for comparison.
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Old May 23 2013, 04:44 AM   #3514
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Can I steal that, Amasov?
Absolutely.
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Old May 23 2013, 06:05 AM   #3515
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The comics provide me with my episodic fix. And funny that he should mention the "lower decks" episode. My favorite issue to date is the one where they retold "The Apple" from the perspective of a red shirt.
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Old May 23 2013, 06:16 AM   #3516
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Finally saw the movie a second time (this time in 3D), and I have to admit... I thought it was a helluva lot better this time.

I'm still not crazy about the kind of story being told of course (all the fantastic worlds and adventures out there, and we're stuck watching the crew go on some Rambo-style revenge mission to capture a terrorist? Really??), but it is what it is, and the movie still manages to tell that story in a pretty exciting way. And the overall plot even seemed to hold together a lot better than I remembered too.


(Although I am still annoyed at the fact the Enterprise never even fires so much as a phaser during the entire movie. I mean, I get that the ship was supposed to be completely outmatched during the battle, but it'd be nice to see it put up SOME kind of fight early on!)
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Old May 23 2013, 08:40 AM   #3517
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The comics provide me with my episodic fix. And funny that he should mention the "lower decks" episode. My favorite issue to date is the one where they retold "The Apple" from the perspective of a red shirt.
I prefer longer stories but I agree - that was a really well-written issue.
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Old May 23 2013, 04:40 PM   #3518
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But TMP's also a "reunion movie", in the tradition of often very kitsch shows such as "Rescue from Gilligan's Island" and "A Very Brady Christmas".
I agree, as the Star Wars Christmas special is to A New Hope,
TMP is to STID.
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Old May 23 2013, 04:43 PM   #3519
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Blasphemy !
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Old May 23 2013, 05:44 PM   #3520
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But TMP's also a "reunion movie", in the tradition of often very kitsch shows such as "Rescue from Gilligan's Island" and "A Very Brady Christmas".
I agree, as the Star Wars Christmas special is to A New Hope,
TMP is to STID.
I don't know which is more ridiculously absurd, that line or the fact that VERY BRADY XMAS' bad guy is Capt Esteban in SFS.
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Old May 23 2013, 05:58 PM   #3521
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I see a film that deals with the themes of loyalty, responsibility, friendship and open-mindedness. If that's not Star Trek, I don't know what is...
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Old May 23 2013, 06:02 PM   #3522
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What's remarkable is that no one gives a fuck now about either A Very Brady Christmas or The Search For Spock.
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Old May 23 2013, 06:04 PM   #3523
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What's remarkable is that no one gives a fuck now about either A Very Brady Christmas or The Search For Spock.
Is that really remarkable?
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Old May 23 2013, 06:10 PM   #3524
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What's remarkable is that no one gives a fuck now about either A Very Brady Christmas or The Search For Spock.
Is that really remarkable?
Considering that neither were good or memorable, no.

I suppose some folks wet themselves over the ILM models.
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Old May 23 2013, 06:18 PM   #3525
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What's remarkable is that no one gives a fuck now about either A Very Brady Christmas or The Search For Spock.
Is that really remarkable?
It used to be said that those who fail to learn from past events are condemned to repeat them. Now it seems that those who remember the past too well feel compelled to revisit it, regardless of context or how inappropriate the intended homage plays.

Which probably explain why a few posts on trekmovie and here are already pointing to SFS as a riff point for some of Abrams' '15/'16.
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