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Old May 23 2013, 12:45 PM   #61
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Re: Had we ever seen imperial democracies in Trek?

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I expect you'd have a great career in the Catholic Church. They pander that mea culpa original sin thing, too.
Which part of past generation as in "not me but the guys who existed before me" do you not understand? Ignorance is not bliss, history is there to learn from it.
Exactly.

The notion that we should only ever identify with "our" ancestors and never criticize them is especially odd to me, because I have ancestors on both sides of the Indian/European conflicts. Why should I identify with my European ancestors over my Native American ancestors? I'd be equally non-existent without either of them.
What part of hectoring, moralistic, grandstanding do you enjoy most. Never mind, your next long winded self-satisfied report from the moral high ground won't be anymore interesting than any of your others.
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Old May 23 2013, 01:22 PM   #62
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Re: Had we ever seen imperial democracies in Trek?

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Which part of past generation as in "not me but the guys who existed before me" do you not understand? Ignorance is not bliss, history is there to learn from it.
Exactly.

The notion that we should only ever identify with "our" ancestors and never criticize them is especially odd to me, because I have ancestors on both sides of the Indian/European conflicts. Why should I identify with my European ancestors over my Native American ancestors? I'd be equally non-existent without either of them.
What part of hectoring, moralistic, grandstanding do you enjoy most. Never mind, your next long winded self-satisfied report from the moral high ground won't be anymore interesting than any of your others.
Ad hominem insult is ad hominem.

Though I cannot understand for the life of me why it bothers you so much. It's not like anyone criticized you.
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