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Doctor Who "Bigger on the inside..."

View Poll Results: Grade "The Name Of The Doctor"
Merlin 111 72.08%
Radagast the brown 30 19.48%
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Old May 21 2013, 01:57 PM   #331
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Re: 7X13 The Name Of The Doctor(Grading/Discussion)(SPOILERS!)

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If the next person to write The Master has any sense they'll forget the drumming. Doesn't even make sense in the context of what RTD put it there for. Hearing drums makes you wanna kill innocent people? Da fuck?
Actually, that part makes sense. Imagine having to listen to the same sound nonstop for a very long time. Or just imagine having to listen to a sound for an hour, like a jackhammer running nonstop outside your office or a car alarm outside your home when you're trying to sleep. That irritation builds up into something over a period of time, especially if you can't get rid of it.

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What's wrong with it?
In both cases, as Starkers suggested with The Master, there's absolutely no indication of such a thing has happened over such a long period of time (both in universe and in real time).

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I think it was the About Time books who suggested if he has been hearing drumming all this time driving him slightly mad it would explain why he never seemed to realise alien races would double cross him, used ridiculously convoluted plans, disguised himself when there was no need to and why he pursued low level villany like trying to disrupt the signing of the Magna Carta.
Interesting, which book states that and where? I have all of them but I've read small sections of each so far. (And on a completely off topic note, are they ever going to do books for Eccleston and Tennant?)
I don't remember it from About Time, but Russell T Davies himself said in Doctor Who Magazine that the drums must have been particularly loud on the day The King's Demons happened.

About Time 7, which will cover Series 1 & 2 (2005-06) will be out this September: http://madnorwegian.com/713/books/sf...series-1-to-2/
About time (pun unavoidable)!
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Old May 21 2013, 03:07 PM   #332
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and how the Zygons fit into it I have no idea...
I doubt the Zygons are going to be integral to the 50th. When we meet up with Tennant, he'll probably be in the middle of an adventure involving Zygons which will be probably be interupted by the arrival of Smith and Hurt.
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Old May 21 2013, 03:19 PM   #333
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I think because there's no indication any of the other Masters were hearing drums. You'd have thought they'd have mentioned it at some point.
Eh...The Master is a Drama Queen. It was a frackin' Ear Infection. All he had to do was have The Doctor give him some Antibiotics, and that pounding in his ears would've cleared up in a couple days
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Old May 21 2013, 03:53 PM   #334
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Old May 21 2013, 04:00 PM   #335
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Did the Master meet Rasilon in the 5 Doctors?
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Old May 21 2013, 04:08 PM   #336
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About Time 7[/i], which will cover Series 1 & 2 (2005-06) will be out this September: http://madnorwegian.com/713/books/sf...series-1-to-2/
I think the last changes went in two weeks ago - Tat was a little irritated that he'd have to second-guess anything that might be relevant in the last couple of episodes rather than being able to refer to it properly...
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Old May 21 2013, 04:08 PM   #337
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He had been punched by the Brigadier and then "hog tied" by the time the "interactive image" of Rassilon manifested, but the Master may have been awake.

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Old May 21 2013, 04:09 PM   #338
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Did the Master meet Rasilon in the 5 Doctors?
Yes and no. He was bound and gagged (by the Brigadier) by the time Rassilon materialised, but clearly conscious, so he'll have heard everything that happened. Then Rassilon sent him home at the end ("His sins will find their punishment in due time").
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Old May 21 2013, 04:45 PM   #339
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That implication is just as bad as the notion The Master has been hearing "the sound of drums" since he gazed into the Eye of Harmony, which is a notion I utterly despise
What's wrong with it?
In both cases, as Starkers suggested with The Master, there's absolutely no indication of such a thing has happened over such a long period of time (both in universe and in real time).

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I think it was the About Time books who suggested if he has been hearing drumming all this time driving him slightly mad it would explain why he never seemed to realise alien races would double cross him, used ridiculously convoluted plans, disguised himself when there was no need to and why he pursued low level villany like trying to disrupt the signing of the Magna Carta.
Interesting, which book states that and where? I have all of them but I've read small sections of each so far. (And on a completely off topic note, are they ever going to do books for Eccleston and Tennant?)
Well it must have been one of the later ones - the 80's one or the second edition of the Pertwee. It was only a passing comment.

Unless I've completely made it up!
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Old May 21 2013, 07:01 PM   #340
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If the next person to write The Master has any sense they'll forget the drumming. Doesn't even make sense in the context of what RTD put it there for. Hearing drums makes you wanna kill innocent people? Da fuck?
Actually, that part makes sense. Imagine having to listen to the same sound nonstop for a very long time. Or just imagine having to listen to a sound for an hour, like a jackhammer running nonstop outside your office or a car alarm outside your home when you're trying to sleep. That irritation builds up into something over a period of time, especially if you can't get rid of it.
Plus, ya know, they're wibbly-wobbly timey-whimey drums. That shit'll mess you up.
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Old May 21 2013, 10:59 PM   #341
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Why would the First Doctor be wearing human clothes while he steals the Tardis? He surely would have been wearing Time Lord clothes.
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Why would the First Doctor be wearing human clothes while he steals the Tardis? He surely would have been wearing Time Lord clothes.
Why? What if was planning a trip to earth?
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Old May 22 2013, 12:26 AM   #343
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Why would the First Doctor be wearing human clothes while he steals the Tardis? He surely would have been wearing Time Lord clothes.
Do any of the surviving first Doctor episodes contain scenes with William Hartnell in timelord clothes that could have been used instead?
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Old May 22 2013, 01:09 AM   #344
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Do any of the surviving first Doctor episodes contain scenes with William Hartnell in timelord clothes that could have been used instead?
No. The Time Lord mythology post-dated Hartnell by several years.
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Do any of the surviving first Doctor episodes contain scenes with William Hartnell in timelord clothes that could have been used instead?
No. The Time Lord mythology post-dated Hartnell by several years.
I think that might just have been a rhetorical question... just a feeling.
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