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Star Trek Movies XI+ Discuss J.J. Abrams' rebooted Star Trek here.

View Poll Results: Grade the movie...
A+ 144 19.23%
A 161 21.50%
A- 101 13.48%
B+ 83 11.08%
B 59 7.88%
B- 27 3.60%
C+ 40 5.34%
C 38 5.07%
C- 25 3.34%
D+ 11 1.47%
D 13 1.74%
D- 10 1.34%
F 37 4.94%
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Old May 21 2013, 09:09 PM   #3406
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I really see no point discussing the objectification of women in the entertainment industry on a message board that has repeatedly failed to get rid of Babe of the Week threads, the culmination of sexism around here.
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Old May 21 2013, 09:10 PM   #3407
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I really see no point discussing the objectification of women in the entertainment industry on a message board that has repeatedly failed to get rid of Babe of the Week threads, the culmination of sexism around here.
The women here are more than welcome to start a 'Dude of the Week' thread.
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Old May 21 2013, 09:13 PM   #3408
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I really see no point discussing the objectification of women in the entertainment industry on a message board that has repeatedly failed to get rid of Babe of the Week threads, the culmination of sexism around here.
The women here are more than welcome to start a 'Dude of the Week' thread.
'Dude of the Week' threads were actually attempted a while back, but they died off because of a lack of interest.
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Old May 21 2013, 09:16 PM   #3409
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I really see no point discussing the objectification of women in the entertainment industry on a message board that has repeatedly failed to get rid of Babe of the Week threads, the culmination of sexism around here.
The women here are more than welcome to start a 'Dude of the Week' thread.
'Dude of the Week' threads were actually attempted a while back, but they died off because of a lack of interest.
Fair enough. But the freedom exists to ogle men the same way women are ogled.
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Old May 21 2013, 09:16 PM   #3410
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Re: Alice Eve in her undies

Somewhere Gene Roddenberry has a huge fucking smile on his face about it.
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Old May 21 2013, 09:17 PM   #3411
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The women here are more than welcome to start a 'Dude of the Week' thread.
Yeah because two wrongs make a right.
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Old May 21 2013, 09:19 PM   #3412
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The women here are more than welcome to start a 'Dude of the Week' thread.
Yeah because two wrongs make a right.
Why is it wrong to admire a beautiful person, male or female?
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Old May 21 2013, 09:21 PM   #3413
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I really see no point discussing the objectification of women in the entertainment industry...
Fair enough. Say no more.

Assuming that this is anything other than the excitement of having found an objection that might actually have a chance of winding folks up around here.
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Old May 21 2013, 09:22 PM   #3414
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The women here are more than welcome to start a 'Dude of the Week' thread.
Yeah because two wrongs make a right.
Co-sign. Let's start giving men anorexia and photoshopping to inescapably small sizes, and see what we think about the blatant "well, they can do it to men, too" bull. Men want what they see in the magazines, and so do women. Having this standard of beauty is killing little girls. But JJ isn't responsible for any of that. He's just feasting on it. Star Trek should be better than that, and it never has been.
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Old May 21 2013, 09:25 PM   #3415
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The women here are more than welcome to start a 'Dude of the Week' thread.
Yeah because two wrongs make a right.
Co-sign. Let's start giving men anorexia and photoshopping to inescapably small sizes, and see what we think about the blatant "well, they can do it to men, too" bull. Men want what they see in the magazines, and so do women. Having this standard of beauty is killing little girls. But JJ isn't responsible for any of that. He's just feasting on it. Star Trek should be better than that, and it never has been.


It's really all I got. Of course it's all Hollywood's and men's fault. The parents never factor into the equation of a little girl having a healthy body image.
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Old May 21 2013, 09:27 PM   #3416
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BillJ wrote: View Post
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The women here are more than welcome to start a 'Dude of the Week' thread.
Yeah because two wrongs make a right.
Why is it wrong to admire a beautiful person, male or female?
Because your girlfriend wants to look like that, can't, and she's going to kill herself trying to look like that. Because the standard of beauty is not realistic. What do I mean? Photoshop. As Cindy Crawford says "I wish I looked like Cindy Crawford, too." Because of how much time and energy goes into each photograph for it to be right. Because women compare themselves to that image, that isn't really what the woman on the cover looks like.

It takes the thoughts and feelings and worth out of the woman and says "As long as you look like this, you can get whatever you want." That's all that matters.

Do you ever stop to think: What is she thinking about in that picture? What is the picture trying to tell me? Or are you just glancing over the pretty parts?
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Old May 21 2013, 09:28 PM   #3417
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The reference to softcore porn was not about how much skin is being shown. It was about the type of film making JJ is engaging in these scenes. It serves no purpose in the story, therefore, we are just looking at her like a piece of meat. Therefore, we are engaging in filmmaking meant to make to make us excited. Hence, softcore porn.

It isn't the amount of nudity, it is the useless, gratuitous shot that does not build character, it does not move the story along, it does nothing for themes of the movie. It is just meant for little 12-year-old boys to pleasure themselves.
Why are you so interested in how 12 year old boys pleasure themselves?
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Old May 21 2013, 09:29 PM   #3418
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The reference to softcore porn was not about how much skin is being shown. It was about the type of film making JJ is engaging in these scenes. It serves no purpose in the story, therefore, we are just looking at her like a piece of meat. Therefore, we are engaging in filmmaking meant to make to make us excited. Hence, softcore porn.

It isn't the amount of nudity, it is the useless, gratuitous shot that does not build character, it does not move the story along, it does nothing for themes of the movie. It is just meant for little 12-year-old boys to pleasure themselves.
Why are you so interested in how 12 year old boys pleasure themselves?
If that's not a personal attack, I don't know what is.
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Old May 21 2013, 09:30 PM   #3419
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Because your girlfriend wants to look like that, can't, and she's going to kill herself trying to look like that.
Take a deep breath. Let it out slowly. Repeat.
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Old May 21 2013, 09:31 PM   #3420
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Why are you so interested in how 12 year old boys pleasure themselves?
Man, when I was 12 I think that episode aired where Crusher and Troi were doing stretches in spandex. Mmm.

Wait, what was this thread about again?
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