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Doctor Who "Bigger on the inside..."

View Poll Results: 'Who' is John Hurt
The original incarnation of The Doctor (pre-Hartnell) 9 9.09%
The 9th Doctor, the one who ended the Time-War 57 57.58%
The Doctor's final incarnation, the 13th Doctor 3 3.03%
Something else entirely 30 30.30%
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Old May 21 2013, 04:50 PM   #76
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Re: One particular SPOILER from The Name of the Doctor

I just thought of something else.

The Time War, was said to have been about The Time Lords and The Daleks going back into each other's pasts, and "turning the other side's wins into losses". This is exactly what The Great Intelligence did by going into The Doctor's Time Stream, and Clara fought back reversing those losses.

So, really, we kinda saw a Time War play out in The Name of The Doctor. So, this really may play into being a hint the HurtDoctor is indeed a product of The Time War
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Old May 21 2013, 05:04 PM   #77
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I.M. Foreman - it wouldn't be unusual for a school of that period just to have the intitals.
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Old May 21 2013, 05:47 PM   #78
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Thanks, Christopher! I figured someone would have an exact transcript on hand.

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Old May 21 2013, 07:10 PM   #79
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But we know it's his secret *before* he goes in...
It's this.

http://youtu.be/tebTGIddPDk
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Old May 21 2013, 07:52 PM   #80
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^I always figured that the Doctor was called that because he got a doctorate from the Prydonian Academy. So he would've been called that well before he left.

And didn't the Gallifreyan version of Clara address him as "Doctor" when she warned him not to steal the wrong TARDIS? That would prove that he did already have the title before he left.
This story, and past stories, have told us that it was more than just a degree. We'd already known that both the Master and the Doctor choose their names. And Smith clarifies that for him it was a promise, not just a simple choice.

He still may have been called that before he left Gallifrey, so it doesn't answer that. It's possible that Clara actually gave him the idea for the name! Here he is, running away, not really sure what he's going to make of his new found freedom, when this young lady addresses him as Doctor, a person who can make people feel better. His inspiration?

We'll have to wait and see!

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Old May 21 2013, 08:01 PM   #81
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Since it is a British show and uses british analogues (by and large) - the only discussion I seem to remember about the Doctor and his degrees suggests he has a bog-standard undergrad degree not a doctoral degree by the terminology they use - at least in the Classic series - in the new series I think he mentions have a PhD in medicine?

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Old May 21 2013, 08:23 PM   #82
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Since it is a British show and uses british analogues (by and large) - the only discussion I seem to remember about the Doctor and his degrees suggests he has a bog-standard undergrad degree not a doctoral degree by the terminology they use - at least in the Classic series - in the new series I think he mentions have a PhD in medicine?
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Old May 21 2013, 09:31 PM   #83
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Funny... in the original series, he often insisted that while he was a doctor of many things, medicine was not among them. I guess he got a medical degree sometime between the two series.
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Old May 21 2013, 09:46 PM   #84
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What was it Tom's Doctor said in "The Ark in Space"?

"Well, my doctorate isn't in medicine and Harry here is only qualified to work on sailors."

But, as you say, he probably picked up some skills.

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Old May 21 2013, 09:57 PM   #85
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I think he is either McGann's doctor but a older version, or he is the Doctor before Hartnell, and he did something so bad that when he changed into Hartnell, his doctor ran away and tried to make amends for it all.
There was no Doctor before Hartnell.
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Old May 21 2013, 10:09 PM   #86
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What was it Tom's Doctor said in "The Ark in Space"?

"Well, my doctorate isn't in medicine and Harry here is only qualified to work on sailors."

But, as you say, he probably picked up some skills.

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Googling it - he actually says:

Well, my Doctorate is purely honorary and Harry is only qualified to work on sailors
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Funny... in the original series, he often insisted that while he was a doctor of many things, medicine was not among them. I guess he got a medical degree sometime between the two series.
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Old May 21 2013, 11:10 PM   #88
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^I always figured that the Doctor was called that because he got a doctorate from the Prydonian Academy. So he would've been called that well before he left.
I don't know about that. Romana says in The Ribos Operation that her triple first is "better than scraping through with fifty one percent at the second attempt." Though I suppose he could have gotten an advanced degree later, the tone of the conversation works against that hypothesis. In The Deadly Assassin, Runcible thinks the Doctor was expelled, though he's vague on the details, and the Doctor doesn't elaborate ("Oh, it's all been forgotten about now, old boy")-- maybe that was his first attempt?
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Old May 22 2013, 12:01 AM   #89
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I've always loved this exchange between the Doctor and the Master from "The Sound of Drums:"

The Doctor: Master.
The Master: [smiles] I love it when you say my name.
The Doctor: You chose it. A psychiatrist's field day.
The Master: As you chose yours. "The man who makes people better." How sanctimonious is that?
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Old May 22 2013, 12:20 AM   #90
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She'd presumably listed her legal guardian in the school records as her grandfather Doctor Foreman (I wonder what first name she used for him)
Probably John if the later "John Smith" is any indication.
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