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Star Trek Movies XI+ Discuss J.J. Abrams' rebooted Star Trek here.

View Poll Results: Grade the movie...
A+ 144 19.30%
A 161 21.58%
A- 101 13.54%
B+ 82 10.99%
B 58 7.77%
B- 27 3.62%
C+ 40 5.36%
C 38 5.09%
C- 25 3.35%
D+ 11 1.47%
D 13 1.74%
D- 10 1.34%
F 36 4.83%
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Old May 21 2013, 12:00 PM   #3361
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Thank you so much for the link. Such lovely insights!
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Old May 21 2013, 02:16 PM   #3362
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NuTrek is about the Original crew, not the secondary characters, aliens, ships or any of that other stuff.
Exactly so.
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Old May 21 2013, 02:40 PM   #3363
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I didn't see anyone addressing this, so thought I'd ask:

How did Uhura and Sulu get off their shuttle and what happened to it?

From what I gather after one viewing; they did not beam off it, they wore wetsuits as well (Sulu's line "ready to swim" from the trailers), so they probably flew it out of the volcanic ash cloud into the ocean, close to the E, abandoned the shuttle and swam to the Enterprise like Kirk and McCoy did later? If so, add even more cultural contamination once they find the wreckage someday...
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Old May 21 2013, 03:19 PM   #3364
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It was my understanding this is why the Enterprise was underwater.
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Old May 21 2013, 03:49 PM   #3365
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I'm thinking that the real Trekkies did need a good smack in the face now.
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Old May 21 2013, 04:13 PM   #3366
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great review. spot on! two thumbs up!
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Old May 21 2013, 04:13 PM   #3367
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I'm thinking that the real Trekkies did need a good smack in the face now.
Why ?
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Old May 21 2013, 04:31 PM   #3368
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And Cumberbatch's Khan was - right from the start, and through to the end - dynamic, threatening, brilliant, and downright badass, all things that Montalban's Khan could never muster, despite the audience being told that he was supposed to be all of them. STID Khan actually WAS.


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It's an unpopular opinion among Trekkers, but actually, I completely agree with you. In many ways - CumberKhan was way, way, way more intimidating than MontalKhan ever was. You get the vibe of someone who is so beyond humanity that he thinks of us as ants. I loved it, it was a fresh take on khan and IMO it's a great way to approach a genetically engineered character. You really see how the Eugenics Wars would've posed a real threat to humanity. It feels real and palpable.

I kind of see MontalKhan and CumberKhan in some ways as two different characters. Each is how the same character would be envisioned if being written fresh in the era they were written in.

There was a little bit of cognitive dissonance for me though over trying to connect the name Khan Noonian Singh with very posh British white guy.
Given the history between Britain and India, and considering the facts that even today there are Oxford and Cambridge educated Indians who have a completely posh English accent, and that Sikhism is a religion that anyone (even pale white people) can be and have been baptized into -- all males who are Sikhs are all named Singh, while females are all named Kaur -- and not an ethnicity, plus the fact that even in TOS, McCoy was able to alter Kirk to look like a Romulan (an alien species), I have no problems imagining that Section 31 altered Khan's appearance when they woke him up, or handwave that he could have always been meant to look like John Harrison.

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Old May 21 2013, 04:57 PM   #3369
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I have no problems imagining that Section 31 altered Khan's appearance when they woke him up, or handwave that he could have always been meant to look like John Harrison.
Interesting take on it.
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Old May 21 2013, 06:01 PM   #3370
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While you've got your screenwriting hat on, can you venture an explanation as to why they hid the ship in the flippin' ocean in the first place? I like it, it looked cool, and it established just how powerful the Enterprise is, making the beating it took from the Vengeance even more impressive, but I'm at a loss as to what the in-universe rationale is. Did Kirk do it just because he could?
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Old May 21 2013, 06:15 PM   #3371
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http://io9.com/damon-lindelof-admits...tuit-508967420

Is it any more gratuitous than Sherry Jackson's camel toe in What are Little Girls Made Of? Or any more gratuitous than the cat suits worn by Jeri Ryan or Jolene Blalock?

It amazes me how short some Trek fans memories are.
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Old May 21 2013, 06:30 PM   #3372
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"I have no idea what I'm supposed to do. I only know what I CAN do."
That's such a great line, I think. I'm glad it made it into the movie. Several of the lines from the trailers were absent or different.
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Old May 21 2013, 06:41 PM   #3373
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Let's hear it for "gratuitous."
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Old May 21 2013, 06:57 PM   #3374
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What do you mean ?
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Old May 21 2013, 06:58 PM   #3375
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What do you mean ?
Lindelof called the Carol Marcus underwear scene 'gratuitous'. It's linked in a post of mine above.
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