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Old May 20 2013, 08:01 PM   #1
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Spoilers: Is It Me Or Did Sulu Have More Confidence Than Kirk?

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To me, when Sulu was asked to take the conn, he became one hell of a acting captain. The way he addressed Harrison was epic and seemed to me that he actually had more confidence than Kirk sitting in the chair. He was strict and meant business and he wasn't reckless. Also when he was hovering the shuttle over the volcano he had to make split decisions and decided to abort despite Spock's line snapping and Uhura's pleas to stay. He put safety first. Any thoughts?
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Old May 20 2013, 08:07 PM   #2
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Re: Spoilers: Is It Me Or Did Sulu Have More Confidence Than Kirk?

I think it was about the same for both. Both Kirk and Sulu are young officers who arise to the occasion when necessary in that captain's chair.

Half of being a good captain is being able to convince others you know what you're doing, even if you really privately don't, IMO.
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Old May 20 2013, 08:12 PM   #3
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Re: Spoilers: Is It Me Or Did Sulu Have More Confidence Than Kirk?

he should: the nuExcelsior is waiting.
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Old May 20 2013, 08:23 PM   #4
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Old May 20 2013, 08:42 PM   #5
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Re: Spoilers: Is It Me Or Did Sulu Have More Confidence Than Kirk?

On balance, Sulu is a better officer and a more realistic officer than Kirk. He's more like how I imagine Kirk Prime would have been at his age.
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Old May 20 2013, 09:38 PM   #6
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Re: Spoilers: Is It Me Or Did Sulu Have More Confidence Than Kirk?

Trek 13 should introduce the nu Excelsior!
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Old May 20 2013, 10:32 PM   #7
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Re: Spoilers: Is It Me Or Did Sulu Have More Confidence Than Kirk?

I think it just stems from Cho probably gave a better performance than expected.

He did a great job with his limited screen time.

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Oh myyy!
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Old May 20 2013, 11:49 PM   #8
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Re: Spoilers: Is It Me Or Did Sulu Have More Confidence Than Kirk?

I am not Spock wrote: View Post
Trek 13 should introduce the nu Excelsior!
Maybe better to wait till Trek 14?

Either way, more Nu Federation starships next time please !
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Old May 20 2013, 11:51 PM   #9
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Re: Spoilers: Is It Me Or Did Sulu Have More Confidence Than Kirk?

nuExcelsior could mean a vacancy at the nuHelm. Would this mean we would get nuSaavik?
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Old May 21 2013, 12:05 AM   #10
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Re: Spoilers: Is It Me Or Did Sulu Have More Confidence Than Kirk?

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Trek 13 should introduce the nu Excelsior!
We had nuExcelsior in this movie: it was called the USS Vengeance. But otherwise, it fit the bill: transwarp drive, bigger ship, etc... It was built for a different mission, of course, but I would think the Excelsior was on the drawing boards for at least a decade and some before it was actually built. So, it evolved into Vengeance instead.
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Old May 21 2013, 12:34 AM   #11
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Re: Spoilers: Is It Me Or Did Sulu Have More Confidence Than Kirk?

Kirk's father figure had just been murdered. Kirk really wasn't thinking very clearly the entire time, and when Khan told him about Marcus, he was even more shattered that he had taken his crew into such a bad situation by falling for Marcus' ruse.
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Old May 21 2013, 12:39 AM   #12
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CorporalClegg wrote: View Post
C.E. Evans wrote: View Post
Both Kirk and Sulu are young officers who arise to the occasion
Oh myyy!
Wrong universe. In this one, it's "White Castle!"*


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Old May 21 2013, 12:54 AM   #13
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Re: Spoilers: Is It Me Or Did Sulu Have More Confidence Than Kirk?

Sulu has alway been more secure in his self.

Kirk has always ozzed over compensation and insecurity.

Both have strenghths and weaknesses.

If I was a admiral I would send Kirk on the finky missions that
may need creative thinking but dammed if I would trust him on something I need reliable predictable results.

Sulu I would use for jobs that would be out of Kirks skill area. He is more of a line officer who could be pretty trusted.
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Old May 21 2013, 12:56 AM   #14
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nuExcelsior could mean a vacancy at the nuHelm. Would this mean we would get nuSaavik?
Sulu commanding Excelsior, Chekov his first officer, Saavik and Valeris take over the Enterprise's helm and navigation.
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Old May 21 2013, 01:00 AM   #15
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The Wormhole wrote: View Post
Campe98 wrote: View Post
nuExcelsior could mean a vacancy at the nuHelm. Would this mean we would get nuSaavik?
nuSulu commanding nuExcelsior, nuChekov his nuFirst-officer, nuSaavik and nuValeris take over the nuEnterprise's nuHelm and navigation.
Fixed for you
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