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Old May 20 2013, 06:21 PM   #16
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Re: New Star Wars animated show "Rebels" coming fall 2014

Vader should not be the main villain but also, he should not be ignored. Would love to see him in holograms, etc.
Well actually, this is quite fantastic news and helps the sting of losing TCW. Feeling optimistic about this... and I have a feeling I'll like it better than Underworld because really, we got a lot of bounty hunter stuff in TCW.
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Old May 20 2013, 06:24 PM   #17
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I don't know - they were pretty adamant that The Emperor, Vader and The Jedi would not feature in the live action show but be background characters acting off screen. The show was to be about ground level characters and this doesn't sound like the plan for Rebels.
But look at how many different kinds of stories and subject matters The Clone Wars tackled. If Rebels is anywhere near as broad in focus, it could incorporate stories and ideas from the Underworld series on occasion.
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Old May 20 2013, 06:44 PM   #18
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I'm really curious what kind of time jump, if any, we'll get between Revenge of the Sith and Rebels. Since Filoni seems to be ecstatic over using more Ep IV based designs, I'm guessing we'll get about a 10 year jump. The Empire will have a chokehold (no pun intended) on the galaxy and the Rebels just starting to be pains in their collective asses. A 10 year jump would also makes things interesting if they bring back Ahsoka, which I'm sure they'll do. An Ahsoka vs Vader duel has to be in the cards down the road for this series.
Hmm, come to think of it, I almost wish the planned new movies were focusing on THIS period instead of the post-Jedi period. Getting more live-action stuff with Vader and the early days of the Rebellion would have been awesome.
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Old May 20 2013, 06:55 PM   #19
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Vader should not be the main villain.
Vader will be the main villain. XD skews even younger than Cartoon Network. I'm sure we'll see plenty of additional villains, though.
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Old May 20 2013, 07:07 PM   #20
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Gargoyles is Greg Weisman's masterwork, but he was also behind The Spectacular Spider-Man (which, despite an overly cartoony design style, was a much smarter and better show than the Ultimate Spider-Man that replaced it) and the superb, just-cancelled Young Justice on Cartoon Network.
This makes me want to see this Rebels show now. I really didn't care for the Clone Wars, but maybe with this guy involved and a new owner of the franchise, something like this could be good. That said, I hope it isn't just a continuation of TCW. Don't have Anakin's kid sidekick on the show, or treat vader like a whiny wimp like the prequels did. This could be good, and hopefully it will be its own show, not TCW: Part 2.
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Old May 20 2013, 07:19 PM   #21
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I wonder if this will use some of those Star Wars TV series scripts if the TV series(live-action) is dead?
Wondering that too. Would love to know what Ron Moore had cooked up.
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Old May 20 2013, 07:46 PM   #22
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An Ahsoka vs Vader duel has to be in the cards down the road for this series.
Yeah, that needs to happen. Definitely.
I agree! Even if it's late in the series (like the excellent Darth Maul vs. Palpatine duel) it would be a thrilling end to Ahsoka's journey. Plus, maybe (unlike Obi Wan in ep.IV) Ahsoka pounds the crap out of him and almost kills him as Vader - since he's in the armor who knows how much more punishment he could take?

Even if there's only one appearance of Vader in the series I would be so satisfied with that. Fanwank territory maybe, but these two have a real history and a real reason that Vader (and the Emperor) would consider her a threat.

I said a lot of bad shit about Disney recently.... If they'd canceled TCW with this announcement it would have avoided a lot of bad publicity for them with the core fans. I guess I'll have to take a lot of that back. Serials are great and I was surprised at how good TCW turned out to be in that format, historically favored by Star Trek. It will be interesting to see how much involvement with the Jedi have the rebels while establishing themselves. I'm off to check the deleted scenes from ROTS for some perspective on that.

And now we have to wait until fall 2014. Well, that's better than summer 2015. I'm a bit more excited for this series than ep VII.
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Old May 20 2013, 07:52 PM   #23
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Vader should not be the main villain.
Vader will be the main villain. XD skews even younger than Cartoon Network. I'm sure we'll see plenty of additional villains, though.
Well I can't see him actually headlining the series as a lead villain. Maybe as the shadow lurking in the background. Or spending most of his time on command ships... geez, who knows? I guess anything's possible at this point. I'd be thrilled with Vader as lead bad guy but I can't see it materializing.

Hope the style isn't any more kid friendly/cartoonish either. A seamless transition between it and TCW would be important.
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Old May 20 2013, 08:07 PM   #24
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Even if it's late in the series (like the excellent Darth Maul vs. Palpatine duel) it would be a thrilling end to Ahsoka's journey. Plus, maybe (unlike Obi Wan in ep.IV) Ahsoka pounds the crap out of him and almost kills him as Vader - since he's in the armor who knows how much more punishment he could take?
I would love for this fight to be the finale of the series. I'm also hoping they incorporate the fanwank idea I had for the finale of TCW and have Ahsoka pop up as Leia's nanny. It would only make sense that she would have a guardian angel like Luke did.
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Old May 20 2013, 10:33 PM   #25
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I'm still behind on Clone Wars (I think I'm on season 3 of the DVDs), but bring it on! Am I right in saying this area has hardly been touched per GL's edict?
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Old May 20 2013, 10:59 PM   #26
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The emphasis they seem to be putting on the work of Ralph Mcquarrie really excites me. One of the things that really captured my imagination way back when the first movie came out, was seeing his work beforehand in magazines like Starlog (issue #6, IIRC) and such. If they can bring that look to the screen in animated form, it could really be pretty cool, I think.
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Old May 20 2013, 11:00 PM   #27
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And Dave Filoni's onboard, which hopefully will provide some continuity with TCW.
If that means Ahsoka beats or regularly outsmarts Vader, shoot me now.

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Ahsoka pounds the crap out of him and almost kills him as Vader
Vader would mop the floor with her.
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Old May 20 2013, 11:39 PM   #28
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Wow. So Disney CAN do more than one thing at a time! I can't believe it because they spent the past couple of weeks trying to convince everyone that they couldn't. It's clear that they just wanted a Star Wars cartoon that they created and could control 100% of time. By Disney's logic, they shouldn't even be doing this series because it has nothing to with Episode VII. Disney hasn't earned the right to make me excited about any SW animation project they've started.

That being said, this could be a really good series. I'm happy that Filoni is back and he's bringing some CW crew with him. Hopefully this will allow him to bring over elements like Ahsoka, Rex, Darth Maul, etc. Hope we'll get an Obi-Wan on Tatooine story too.

I've heard good things about Weisman. The SW cartoons have always had talented people running them. I like what Kinberg did on X-Men First Class but he also was involved in X3 The Last Stand and I hated that Sherlock Holmes film. But he's working on the new movies so that should be interesting.

I'm curious what the animation will be like. The 3D animation they used in The Clone Wars made me skeptical at first but I became a big fan on it and it literally got better every year.

Here's hoping this will be a really great show!
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An Ahsoka vs Vader duel has to be in the cards down the road for this series.
Yeah, that needs to happen. Definitely.
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Old May 20 2013, 11:58 PM   #30
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Yes. It's the best explanation for her absence during the OT.

Wouldn't mind some Force Unleashed characters popping up.
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