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Old May 20 2013, 12:59 AM   #631
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Re: STID "tracking" for $85-90 million opening [U.S. box office]

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But, of course, the apparent "glass ceiling" for nuTrek is hundreds of millions of dollars higher than for oldTrek.
...yeah, like inflated ticket prices have nothing to do with that.

nuTrek2 is not generating the kind of spirited, interested dialogue as TWOK in 1982. Not even close.
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Old May 20 2013, 01:01 AM   #632
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And show more Alice Eve in bra and panties, for the teen market
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Old May 20 2013, 01:02 AM   #633
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Re: STID "tracking" for $85-90 million opening [U.S. box office]

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But, of course, the apparent "glass ceiling" for nuTrek is hundreds of millions of dollars higher than for oldTrek.
...yeah, like inflated ticket prices have nothing to do with that.

nuTrek2 is not generating the kind of spirited, interested dialogue as TWOK in 1982. Not even close.
There's a 31 year difference between the two. Welcome to the 21st century.
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Old May 20 2013, 01:02 AM   #634
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Re: STID "tracking" for $85-90 million opening [U.S. box office]

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Will you people all get a grip! The movie isn't even out a week in the US.
All this doom and gloom is ridiculous.
But par for the course as far as the internet is concerned. I've already been to a few sites which a few have already declared it a flop and that this is the end of Trek forever.

Uh-huh...
ST fans are so neurotic, I find it highly amusing.
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Old May 20 2013, 01:03 AM   #635
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Trek 09 already made a few compromises. In one scene alone, we got Nokia product placement, a car chase, and Beastie Boys music. And yet it still didn't do Fast and Furious money. Trek 09 was a success for Trek standards, but only a modest success in terms of film in general
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Old May 20 2013, 01:05 AM   #636
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But, of course, the apparent "glass ceiling" for nuTrek is hundreds of millions of dollars higher than for oldTrek.
...yeah, like inflated ticket prices have nothing to do with that.
Nothing but a fractional difference, no. Check it out; exaggerating those kind of things doesn't win points.

TWOK may have engendered some "spirited discussion" in some Star Trek clubs or something in 1982, but it wasn't one of the biggest releases of that summer and there wasn't much buzz about it among the general public. The skiffy movies that got most of the attention that year were E.T. and Blade Runner.
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Old May 20 2013, 01:08 AM   #637
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I think Trekkies think Trek is more popular than it actually is, alas.
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Old May 20 2013, 01:08 AM   #638
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With four years worth of ticket inflation, 3-D prices and IMAX, the failure to match 2009 Star Trek is staggering.

Its funny so many people were all like, "don't rush into the sequel, let J.J take his time"

Now the 4 year gap and inability to ride off the momentum of the first movie seems to be agreed upon as a big part in the under performing opening box office.
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Old May 20 2013, 01:09 AM   #639
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Most franchises have a ceiling. Only a rarefied few franchises make more than $300 million domestic. If Trek's ceiling is $200-250 million domestic that puts it in good company. There's no shame in it. You just have to budget accordingly and continue to work on expanding Trek's international appeal and youth appeal.

To put things in perspective: over the last few summers only about half a dozen films per summer have opened to more than $60 million. Even in this especially super-charged summer STiD will likely be in the top half-dozen opening weekends.
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Old May 20 2013, 01:09 AM   #640
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I think Trekkies think Trek is more popular than it actually is, alas.

Well, pre-Abrams anyway. There's a lot more interest in these two movies than there ever was before.

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Now the 4 year gap and inability to ride off the momentum of the first movie seems to be agreed upon as a big part in the under performing opening box office.
No.

A couple of Trekkies agreeing with one another doesn't constitute any kind of meaningful consensus on anything.

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To put things in perspective: over the last few summers only about half a dozen films per summer have opened to more than $60 million. Even in this especially super-charged summer STiD will likely be in the top half-dozen opening weekends.
In a few weeks Paramount management is going to be too busy licking their wounds over World War Z to second-guess the success of Into Darkness.
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Old May 20 2013, 01:11 AM   #641
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Re: STID "tracking" for $85-90 million opening [U.S. box office]

This addresses the four year gap.

http://www.boxofficeguru.com/weekend.htm
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Old May 20 2013, 01:14 AM   #642
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Re: STID "tracking" for $85-90 million opening [U.S. box office]

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TWOK may have engendered some "spirited discussion" in some Star Trek clubs or something in 1982, but it wasn't one of the biggest releases of that summer and there wasn't much buzz about it among the general public. The skiffy movies that got most of the attention that year were E.T. and Blade Runner.
In the domestic market TWOK was the fourth highest grossing film of summer 1982 and the sixth highest grossing film of the year. Blade Runner was #27 for the year, although its reputation and influence have grown over the years.
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Old May 20 2013, 01:15 AM   #643
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It is idiotic to declare this movie a failure after only one weekend.
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Old May 20 2013, 01:16 AM   #644
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Especially when it's already made back most of its budget.
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Old May 20 2013, 01:17 AM   #645
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Especially when it's already made back most of its budget.
It's more complicated than that. The studio doesn't get all of the box office.
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