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Old May 19 2013, 09:09 PM   #571
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Re: STID "tracking" for $85-90 million opening [U.S. box office]

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Trek's opening is very similar to Oz's, which wound up settling around $230 mil domestically (with less competition).

It's going to be close on making back it's budget domestically, and it's foreign numbers are tracking at about half that amount.

Not a major hit by any stretch and this will have implications on Trek III's budget. We're looking at a slash to about $120-130 million. Probably a good thing, maybe they'll focus more on story. Kind of tired of the Enterprise having to face the villian's Super Badass Ship at the end every time.
The problem is that Hangover and Fast 6 both come out next week, this is very unusual and Trek might get killed by it.
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Old May 19 2013, 09:15 PM   #572
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The audience for Star Trek in 2009 was 60% male and 65% over 25.
They should have put more shirtless Kirk in the movie and trailers to get more females to see the movie.
Not only that. They missed a shirtless Cumberbatch that should have been a fucking GIVEN.
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Old May 19 2013, 09:22 PM   #573
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From Box Office.com

Star Trek Into Darkness ramped up its global expansion, grossing $40 million across 40 territories this weekend to reach a $80.5 million overseas total. The film's global cume stands at $164.5 million with around half of the overseas marketplace still waiting for the film's release. Russia was the biggest market for the Star Trek reboot's sequel, bringing in $8 million in its opening weekend -a 400% increase from the last film's Russian opening and twice the lifetime gross of its predecessor in the same market. The film also outgrossed the lifetime cumes of the last Star Trek in Colombia, India, Malaysia, Philippines, Peru, Singapore, and Thailand.

Star Trek Into Darkness showed resiliency in its seven hold-over markets, grossing a combined $55.6 million in its second weekend. The U.K. led the pack with a $5.9 million weekend and a $24 million cume. Germany added $3.2 million this weekend to bring its German total to $12.4 million. Australia scored a similar figure, with $3.3 million in the three-day span to reach a $10 million total. Mexico pushed another $1.6 million for a $5.6 million cume. Star Trek Into Darkness will be released in China, Japan, Korea, Brazil, Italy, Spain and France in the coming weeks.
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Old May 19 2013, 09:23 PM   #574
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Just for a reality check. Amazon already has the movie up for pre-order and it's ranked #1 for Blu-ray.

http://www.amazon.com/s/ref=nb_sb_ss...to%2Caps%2C235

Interesting bit. If you pre-order, you get a credit for a free comic but it can't be used until it ships. But the credit expires September 31st.
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Old May 19 2013, 09:27 PM   #575
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It's still ranked as a disappointment though.

It's not a flop or failure yet, nor is it likely to be. Just a disappointment. Paramount can go either way on the sequels budget, personally I do agree that there wasn't enough emphasis on the Enterprise/Kirk/Spock etc etc in the marketing, it tried to appeal to an audience that just isn't interested in Trek atm.
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Old May 19 2013, 09:30 PM   #576
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You want FF6 numbers for Trek? You've got to put Kirk and Gaila in a small shuttlcraft and have them chase Cumberbatch (and his Eugenically Enhanced Sidekick Bit*h) all over Known space to the latest hip hop tunes.

You have to have chase scenes, hip hop music, and scantily clad Orion Slave women.

800 million, easy.
THIS pretty much. You want those kinds of numbers? You've gotta make that compromise. And I don't want to compromise.

Frankly, even if I'm a tad disappointed with the numbers, I'm okay with what I got.
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Old May 19 2013, 09:58 PM   #577
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Gatsby was supposed to be competition. STID made $6 million less over 5 days, than Gatsby's 2 week total.


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Old May 19 2013, 09:59 PM   #578
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Gatsby was never meant to be serious competition, but it seems to have unexpectedly cut into part of Trek's target audience.
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Old May 19 2013, 10:03 PM   #579
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Yeah, Gatsby has performed better than expected. Trek's male/female ratio might have been a bit better and its gross a bit higher were it not for that.
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Re: STID "tracking" for $85-90 million opening [U.S. box office]

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Well it's all semantics anyway: STID may be "disappointing" but it's not weak at all. Then you have to define disappointing. With Imax and the success of the last movie, you'd think it would have done $100 million over 5 days. Failure or flop would mean it didn't cover cost. A opening flop may have meant a $40-50 million weekend. Clearly that is NOT the case. Considering the movie cost $180-190 million, STID has almost covered that in just over a week at $165 million gross by the end of Sunday. Again the naysayers have failed.

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It is disappointing. Even if the film gets to Star Trek 2009 money, it will have sold fewer tickets due to higher ticket prices.
For a bit of perspective:

Casino Royale: $167M (2006)
Quantum of Solace: $168M (2008)

And BOM lists the production budget for QoS as $200M against a $190M production budget for STID.
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Old May 19 2013, 10:06 PM   #581
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Bond's main box office strength has always been in foreign markets, though. Casino Royale did $599 million worldwide, with 72% of that coming from foreign markets. Qauntum of Solace did $586 million worldwide, with 71.3% coming from foreign markets.
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Old May 19 2013, 10:09 PM   #582
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Yeah.

That's why I've never bought the "Trek is an American thing". Trek is making progress in these expanding markets, which is why I don't think Paramount is not going to mothball the movie. It's introducing the entire franchise to a new market.
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I don't know who is handling the merchandising for this film (CBS, Paramount, Bad Robot)? But whoever it is, is doing a really shitty job.
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Old May 19 2013, 10:13 PM   #584
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The Trek action figures did pretty poorly iirc, which goes back to what has been said about the age of the audiences and the appeal. I don't think these movies have ever been marketed towards kids.

and the video game was notoriously shit but thats their fault - they should really just sell the license to a popular nerd studio, someone like Obsidian.
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Bond's main box office strength has always been in foreign markets, though. Casino Royale did $599 million worldwide, with 72% of that coming from foreign markets. Qauntum of Solace did $586 million worldwide, with 71.3% coming from foreign markets.
Yep, which demonstrates why looking solely at the NA figures doesn't provide the full picture. Granted, the Star Trek franchise is weighted more heavily toward NA, but considering the currently strong worldwide results, it's clear that nuTrek is continuing to grow its brand, diversify its revenues, etc.

Even with lukewarm NA numbers, Paramount will still be more likely happy than not.
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