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Old May 18 2013, 06:00 PM   #46
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Re: Post here if you actually loved this movie!!

I saw the 12:01 showing Wednesday Night and I was really happy with the way the film went. i wasn't paying too much attention to how the others in the theater reacted. (partly because my theater converted some of the auditoriums to an all Lay-Z-Boy seat format and I was in heaven) anyway.
I hope the young Spock contacting old Spock for advice bit is dropped. It's cool to see Leonard Nimoy of course but I think it would get a bit old and make the new crew seem less effective if they have to refer to Spock Prime on every BIG mission.
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Old May 18 2013, 11:19 PM   #47
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Loved the "homages" to TWOK, because patterns repeating/reasserting themselves over multiple timelines has always been a great SF theme.
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Old May 19 2013, 12:40 AM   #48
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Loved everything about it It was like the episode I've always wanted involving Benedict Cumberbatch.
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Old May 19 2013, 12:54 AM   #49
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I had the goofiest smile on my face when I spotted the NX-01, Ring Ship and NX-Alpha test flight models sitting on the desk. Just that moment alone showed J.J. respects the franchise and its history and cares about what we think and might like to see.
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Old May 19 2013, 02:44 AM   #50
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Count me in. Die hard fan, own all the series on various formats, and I loved this movie. Good old fun and adventure, nice to see that in Trek again!
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Old May 19 2013, 03:35 AM   #51
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My only disappointment was it was the ol' Evil Admiral Behind It All plot. Then again, it was well executed and had some good twists. I was really hoping that CumberKhan was actually Ben Finney, but I even enjoyed this twist.

It was Star Trek in a lot of ways, but the commentary on the human condition (this time FAMILY, a common one in Trek anyway) was fabulous.
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Old May 19 2013, 03:42 AM   #52
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Yeah, second time I watched it I was...amused by Peter Weller's attempt to overcome the cliche aspects of his part.

OTOH, Marcus is in the grand TOS tradition of "when someone very famous or in authority over Kirk is introduced, he's a lunatic or a meddler or both." It wasn't always true on TOS, but way too frequently was, with everyone from Matt Decker to Ambassador Fox to Daystrom to Garth to Tristan Adams to Nilz Barris to...
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Old May 19 2013, 07:18 AM   #53
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Just got back from seeing the movie and I have to say that not only am I pleased, I am *astonished*.

Star Trek XI was, frankly, not very good as far as I'm concerned. It has a nonsensical plot and characters who served little purpose aside from spouting familiar quotes. Not to mention that I felt like it didn't stand on its own legs with so much 24th century stuff in the movie (who were poor representations of Romulans to begin with).

But STID? I really had a great time, and I was watching the movie with a really scathing eye this time around. Unlike Wrath of Khan, which is a moronic, nonsensical movie with a short-sighted idiot as a villain, I took STID's Khan seriously and he actually acted intelligent and dangerous unlike Montalban's. The characters all had more depth, we got to see a little more of the Star Trek world, both on and off Earth, and there wasn't this dull section in the middle.

I didn't like the magical blood subplot, but at least they set that up early in the movie so it didn't seem like they pulled it out of their ass. I also felt there were a few too many shots of the Enterprise crew dying and felt a little uncomfortable after a while and felt like "Yeah, I get it...", and Spock Prime's little scene was basically pointless. More cracks in the armor may show up on repeat viewings but I still dig the movie despite these gripes.

It was a lot of fun, it was much more TOS-centric, and everything from the plot, to the characters, to the pacing (and even the scoring) was better. Yes, they did reuse a lot of stuff from one of the Star Trek movies, but it was a terrible Star Trek movie and they made those elements work here where they didn't before. Cumberbatch gets a thumbs up from me, as does the rest of the movie.
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Old May 19 2013, 08:12 AM   #54
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I've been avoiding this bbs for months because I was terrified of spoilers.

I lucked into free passes to an advance screening last Wednesday. Now I wanna go back and pay to see it again. I was not a fan of the 09 Star Trek. I wanted to like it, and I gradually came to appreciate it a little more with subsequent viewings, but I remember sitting in the theater and getting this sinking feeling, like a balloon with the air being let out. I had the complete opposite reaction this time around. The previous movie just didn't totally feel like Star Trek to me, but Into Darkness did. When the movie was over, one of the first things I said was, "There was a lot more Star Trek in this Star Trek movie." I get the sense the writers must have taken some of the criticisms fans had and set out to address them with this movie. This is undoubtedly the most action packed Star Trek, but at the end of the day, it really feels like a reaffirmation of the ideals that are at the core of the franchise.
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Old May 19 2013, 08:14 AM   #55
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Glad you liked it! Yeah, you can see where J.J. and the writers took the constructive criticism given and built upon it. I love ST09, but STiD is just head and shoulders above it, and is my favorite at this point.
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Old May 19 2013, 03:02 PM   #56
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I also think they changed their clothes too much in this movie, but then again in the Prime Universe, they never change their clothes at all, so you just can't please me when you come to uniforms! And Alice Eve in her skivvies, yeah, gratuitous, but it was cool.
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Old May 19 2013, 03:25 PM   #57
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Unlike Wrath of Khan, which is a moronic, nonsensical movie with a short-sighted idiot as a villain, I took STID's Khan seriously and he actually acted intelligent and dangerous unlike Montalban's.
I wouldn't use your adjectives but I never understood the love that TWOK received. Except for the last scenes the rest of the movie IMHO was lacking and to take a weak villain from TOS was lame (but hey, that's what some are griping about STID!).

But to my review of STID... I laughed, cried and was awed. I think the plot was well chosen, it gave old fans some familiarity but it also turned it around, in more ways than one. I see no fault in cherry-picking from another ST movie since many of the movies borrowed some from TOS to keep the fans interested. The alternative timeline means anything goes.

Tried to stay away from the spoilers so my only worry were the reports that Bones' role was pretty diminished. The movie is heavy on the Kirk-Spock bromance - but Bones still gets some great lines (and looks good doing it ).

If you have the funds see it in IMAX 3D .
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Old May 19 2013, 04:08 PM   #58
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I've been avoiding this bbs for months because I was terrified of spoilers.
Same here, but I've been avoiding the bbs for years... when I logged in yesterday it said "last visited: January 2011"!
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Old May 19 2013, 04:29 PM   #59
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Saw it a second time last, and Into Darkness has now vaulted to #2 in my all time Trek movie list. I absolutely loved the film, and in particular Chris Pine and Zachary Quinto own the roles of Kirk and Spock. The rest of the cast is absolutely fantastic and Benedict Cumberpatch just dominates every scene he's in and is supremely menacing.

Loved the story, loved how certain scenes echoed moments from Star Trek II. And just like the great trilogy of Trek's II-IV, the characters took center stage and propelled the story forward.

Bravo JJ!
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Old May 19 2013, 04:38 PM   #60
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I read a lot of reviews that bemoaned that Uhura has replaced McCoy in the "trilogy," and that Bones had been backbenched. I really didn't find that to be the case. If anything, STiD found ways to bring all the characters from the OS onto center stage.
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