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Doctor Who "Bigger on the inside..."

View Poll Results: Grade "The Name Of The Doctor"
Merlin 111 72.08%
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Old May 19 2013, 03:54 AM   #106
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Re: 7X13 The Name Of The Doctor(Grading/Discussion)(SPOILERS!)

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Or he's The Other after all.
I really doubt that Moffat would hang the story of a character on backstory that only about twenty thousand people are going to be aware of.

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I don't believe the 8th Doctor was featured in the episode with Clara encountering the incarnations, so wouldn't it have been awesome for the reveal to be HIM?
I believe there are still issues with Universal over footage from the television movie. During the BAFTA tribute, they used a promo image of McGann's Doctor instead of footage from the film.
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Old May 19 2013, 03:55 AM   #107
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I think Doctor Hurt sounds ominous.
So does Batman.
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Old May 19 2013, 03:58 AM   #108
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And what the hell is the deal with Strax in Scotland anyway? Does he go there on his weekends off and spar with that big muscular dude?
Well, it's a joke about the stereotype of Glaswegians being so aggressive that you can start a fight there by saying 'Hello'. So it's the bit of Earth that feels most like home to a Sontaran (And Steve Moffat is from Glasgow... well, Paisley, but it's a suburb)
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Old May 19 2013, 04:00 AM   #109
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Just like the other episodes in this series it was another overhyped meh episode.

A just above mediocre story with Moffat recycling the same handful of plot devices he's been using since he's been writing for Doctor Who.



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The Timelords resurrected Rassilon, they might also have let him cross his own timeline in hopes of winning the war.
If it was THE Rassilon and not just some nutter calling himself Rassilon why would they need to resurrect him? He wasn't dead. He was put into suspended animation by the other Time Lords.
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Old May 19 2013, 04:03 AM   #110
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Why say that he's not the Doctor, then write on the screen "Introducing the Doctor."

Make up your mind.
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Old May 19 2013, 04:07 AM   #111
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Hurt is playing the Doctor, but the other incarnations don't like him. How else would Hurt be credited? "John Hurt as Not the Doctor"?
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Old May 19 2013, 04:08 AM   #112
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I believe there are still issues with Universal over footage from the television movie. During the BAFTA tribute, they used a promo image of McGann's Doctor instead of footage from the film.
But didn't they use footage of McGann from the TV movie in The Next Doctor? At the very least, at the end when we see various Doctors running by Clara within the timestream, those were just people in costumes with their faces obscured. Couldn't they have had one of those dressed in McGann's costume.

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Well, it's a joke about the stereotype of Glaswegians being so aggressive that you can start a fight there by saying 'Hello'. So it's the bit of Earth that feels most like home to a Sontaran (And Steve Moffat is from Glasgow... well, Paisley, but it's a suburb)
Ah, that explains much. Just more regional humour. Now that I know that, it actually makes the scene funny instead of a random WTF moment.

If it was THE Rassilon and not just some nutter calling himself Rassilon why would they need to resurrect him? He wasn't dead. He was put into suspended animation by the other Time Lords.
Well, if you accept The Writer's Tale, then yes, he was that Rassilon. And according to it, the Time Lords resurrected everyone from their past and drafted them into fighting the war.
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Old May 19 2013, 04:17 AM   #113
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Kids big and small across the Western Hemisphere have no doubt yet to pick their jaws off of the floors. That was a humdinger of an ending. Wonder what it's like for fans who were completely unaware that Hurt would be involved with the show.
Although I otherwise loved the episode, I had to laugh at the pretentiousness of putting, in huge letters next to John Hurt's face, "Introducing JOHN HURT as THE DOCTOR", accompanied by two thundering drumbeats. It made it look like I had accidentally switched channels and was watching some sort of parody movie trailer or something.

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Old May 19 2013, 04:18 AM   #114
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So was there anything in there that hadn't been corrrectly revealed weeks ago? River hinting that there's some connection between her and Clara perhaps?.
I'm guessing the connection is between Clara and the TARDIS. Perhaps, Clara is the TARDIS. Keep in mind where Clara tells the first Doctor to take the other TARDIS. In the Doctor's Wife we learn that the TARDIS took the Doctor! Possible connection.

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Old May 19 2013, 04:19 AM   #115
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However, the stuff about "breaking the promise" implies to me that he probably is later incarnation that chose for some reason (Time War, perhaps?) not to call himself the Doctor.

I thought about that too, however, the Doctor refers to him as his big secret. But everyone knows the Doctor was involved in the Time War, and at least somewhat know what he did (he was the one who locked Gallifrey and the Daleks away, cutting the war off from the rest of time and essentially destroying them), so it's not much of a secret.
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Old May 19 2013, 04:19 AM   #116
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So was there anything in there that hadn't been corrrectly revealed weeks ago? River hinting that there's some connection between her and Clara perhaps?.
I'm guessing the connection is between Clara and the TARDIS. Perhaps, Clara is the TARDIS. Keep in mind where Clara tells the first Doctor to take the other TARDIS. In the Doctor's Wife we learn that the TARDIS took the Doctor! Possible connection.

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Old May 19 2013, 04:24 AM   #117
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I believe there are still issues with Universal over footage from the television movie. During the BAFTA tribute, they used a promo image of McGann's Doctor instead of footage from the film.
But didn't they use footage of McGann from the TV movie in The Next Doctor? At the very least, at the end when we see various Doctors running by Clara within the timestream, those were just people in costumes with their faces obscured. Couldn't they have had one of those dressed in McGann's costume.

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Well, it's a joke about the stereotype of Glaswegians being so aggressive that you can start a fight there by saying 'Hello'. So it's the bit of Earth that feels most like home to a Sontaran (And Steve Moffat is from Glasgow... well, Paisley, but it's a suburb)
Ah, that explains much. Just more regional humour. Now that I know that, it actually makes the scene funny instead of a random WTF moment.

If it was THE Rassilon and not just some nutter calling himself Rassilon why would they need to resurrect him? He wasn't dead. He was put into suspended animation by the other Time Lords.
Well, if you accept The Writer's Tale, then yes, he was that Rassilon. And according to it, the Time Lords resurrected everyone from their past and drafted them into fighting the war.
We very briefly see the 8th Doctor walk past Clara in the transition from the 3rd driving by to Clara watching the second running along.
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Old May 19 2013, 04:30 AM   #118
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Kids big and small across the Western Hemisphere have no doubt yet to pick their jaws off of the floors. That was a humdinger of an ending. Wonder what it's like for fans who were completely unaware that Hurt would be involved with the show.
Although I otherwise loved the episode, I had to laugh at the pretentiousness of putting, in huge letters next to John Hurt's face, "JOHN HURT as THE DOCTOR". It made it look like I had accidentally switched channels and was watching some sort of parody movie trailer or something.
I thought it was Tarantinoesque, I had to give it too them for going there. This is the series of blockbusters, right?


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Why say that he's not the Doctor, then write on the screen "Introducing the Doctor."

Make up your mind.
Unreliable narrator? Meta?
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Old May 19 2013, 04:38 AM   #119
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The 8th Doctor's incredibly brief appearance walking past Clara just before Troughton goes past in his fur coat was done the same way as the 6th was: Bloke dressed up in the costume keeping their face off camera rather than stock footage. the "9"th only appears in a similar way near the end as well. Presumably it's just a stylistic choice for all three rather than a problem using any clips from their stories.

In practical terms I'm sure whatever the truth about Hurt's Doctor they're not going to suddenly retroactively renumber the last three Doctor's in official documentation, Smith will always be the 11th in episode guides and the like.
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If it was THE Rassilon and not just some nutter calling himself Rassilon why would they need to resurrect him? He wasn't dead. He was put into suspended animation by the other Time Lords.
Well, if you accept The Writer's Tale, then yes, he was that Rassilon. And according to it, the Time Lords resurrected everyone from their past and drafted them into fighting the war.
But Rassilon wasn't dead. He was in suspended animation in the Dark Tower.
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