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Doctor Who "Bigger on the inside..."

View Poll Results: Grade "The Name Of The Doctor"
Merlin 111 72.08%
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Barty crouch jr 5 3.25%
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Old May 18 2013, 07:53 PM   #31
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Loved it. Loved it to bits.
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Old May 18 2013, 07:56 PM   #32
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WOW WOW WOW

That was utterly brilliant and worth the wait for the most part, easily one of the best episodes of Doctor Who since its return. So is John Hurt, the Valeyard? as that name was mentioned in the episode and all points kind of lead to him doing something terrible. Also Hurt is not going to replace Smith but since all life cycles do age eventually I assume he could easily be an aged version of the 12th cycle.

I love how Clara was put into all the old Doctor Who footage and how she came to be the impossible girl was simply awesome
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Old May 18 2013, 07:57 PM   #33
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Fantastic teaser. Some predictable developments (of course we don't get his name), and overall.

Well, that was... Mostly good, covered a bit too many of the usual Moffat tropes we've already seen, but still did it for me. Doubtless will wind up certain fans by confirming a certain relationship. Great performances from Smith and Grant. Clara still beautiful, Strax very funny. (Hang on, so the Silence were trying to prevent the Great Intelligence from fucking up the universe?)

Had me in tears again, not for from the intended reasons but because... Yeah, more a trigger than an intended emotional manipulation. Just...

This season seems to have done to me a lot, being too personal, too close to home. Which you'd think is impossible for a series like Dr Who - but I know what it's like to lose a love and not get to say goodbye. And that means stuff like that Doctor River scene... really hurts.
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Old May 18 2013, 07:57 PM   #34
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And as a throw-in, we had the first mention since Trial of the Valeyard tonight... we're talking, in some form, the Doctor gone bad. Not evil, but the last step over the edge into so ruthless as to be evil whatever his intents, I suspect.
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Old May 18 2013, 07:58 PM   #35
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Wow just wow, that has to have been the best 45 minutes of Doctor Who in a long time. The ending was amazing, the production values were through the roof. Just when you think Moffat has gone as far as he can, he just knocks your socks off.
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Old May 18 2013, 07:59 PM   #36
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Hurt could be the first Doctor, one before Hartnell. The Doctor did say his name was like a promise. What better way to atone for being a "tyrant" than becoming a healer.
Yup, that's how I took the reveal
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Old May 18 2013, 08:02 PM   #37
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Lawrence Miles is going to be annoyed again...
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Old May 18 2013, 08:03 PM   #38
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Thought the Clara/Impossible Girl resolution was perfect. SO much better than the arc resolution last year.

And they used the fucking Dragonfire clip for McCoy. Hilarious.
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Old May 18 2013, 08:04 PM   #39
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Possibly a time locked Doctor? The one that ended the time war and is still technically stuck there, that'd be interesting to unravel.
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Old May 18 2013, 08:10 PM   #40
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Well, the only thing we can be sure of is that he's NOT an incarnation who's somehow been blocked from the Doctor's memory: the current Doctor knows full well who he is, knows what he did, and thinks that he, unlike himself and the 10 previous incarnations we already knew about, doesn't deserve the name 'Doctor'.
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Old May 18 2013, 08:10 PM   #41
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Lonemagpie wrote: View Post
Lawrence Miles is going to be annoyed again...
His reaction...

Well, it's not NSFW, but it's also not particularly nice.

Click at your own risk.

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Old May 18 2013, 08:11 PM   #42
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Hurt could be the first Doctor, one before Hartnell. The Doctor did say his name was like a promise. What better way to atone for being a "tyrant" than becoming a healer.
Yup, that's how I took the reveal
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Well, the only thing we can be sure of is that he's NOT an incarnation who'd somehow been blocked from the Doctor's memory: the current Doctor knows who he is, knows what he did, just thinks that he, unlike himself and the 10 previous incarnations we already knew about, doesn't deserve the name 'Doctor'.
This is why I keep thinking he's gong to end up being a pre-Doctor, "Doctor". The man that leads to the Doctor taking the name Doctor
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Old May 18 2013, 08:14 PM   #43
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Lawrence Miles is going to be annoyed again...
His reaction...

Well, it's not NSFW, but it's also not particularly nice.

Click at your own risk.

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LOL
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Old May 18 2013, 08:19 PM   #44
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Kids big and small across the Western Hemisphere have no doubt yet to pick their jaws off of the floors. That was a humdinger of an ending. Wonder what it's like for fans who were completely unaware that Hurt would be involved with the show.

Not a perfect episode - a bit too much of the trademark silliness and pseudo-resolution for my taste - but scintillating enough in places. Nice surprise to see the First Doctor, though the opening scene and its reprise are slightly at odds with The Doctor's Wife.

This was something of a return to form for Moffat, I think. Like most of his best stories this one doesn't make much logical sense but packs an emotional punch, and that's arguably what good storytelling is all about. Great send-off for River. I guess it'll be a while before we have any idea of the exceptional circumstances whereby she learned the Doctor's original name( or maybe, since the Hurt Doctor didn't call himself that...).

Hurt is almost certainly a Time War incarnation between Eight and Nine. I wonder if we'll see a Hurt-to-Eccleston regeneration in November.

Anyway, Fridge Logic time. Were the Silence trying to kill the Doctor to prevent his past unravelling? And what was that stuff about no living thing being unable to answer? I'm thinking that there's an element of smoke-and-mirrors with this whole multi-seasonal storyline. This is really the one place where Moffat's writing seems to fall down - when it comes to arc plots he's an ideas man but seemingly unable to tie things up satisfactorily.

In any case, all things considered it's a Radagast from me.
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Old May 18 2013, 08:20 PM   #45
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AWESOME 10/10 nothing more can be said on the matter!

Speculation as to what Hurt's Doctor did that disgraced his incarnation to the point where he was deemed unworthy of the title ??
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