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Star Trek Movies XI+ Discuss J.J. Abrams' rebooted Star Trek here.

View Poll Results: Grade the movie...
A+ 142 19.22%
A 160 21.65%
A- 99 13.40%
B+ 82 11.10%
B 58 7.85%
B- 27 3.65%
C+ 40 5.41%
C 38 5.14%
C- 24 3.25%
D+ 11 1.49%
D 13 1.76%
D- 10 1.35%
F 35 4.74%
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Old May 17 2013, 11:25 PM   #2656
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Re: STAR TREK INTO DARKNESS - Grading & Discussion [SPOILERS]

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Question: Is Star Dead?
Answer: No.

Moving on.
I'm sorry, is this thread only for positive reviews?
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Old May 17 2013, 11:28 PM   #2657
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Old May 17 2013, 11:35 PM   #2658
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Xaios wrote: View Post
Question: Is Star Dead?
Answer: No.

Moving on.
I'm sorry, is this thread only for positive reviews?
I have no issue with negative reviews. However, I have zero patience for doomsayers.
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Old May 17 2013, 11:38 PM   #2659
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Badass Digest: Star Trek Into Darkness is a bad movie
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Old May 17 2013, 11:39 PM   #2660
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I have no issue with negative reviews. However, I have zero patience for doomsayers.
I'm still listening. I figured the title and picture was just a teaser to get people to listen. I thought they would say they love all of it.
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Old May 17 2013, 11:41 PM   #2661
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A little makeup on the British guy, and a completely different movie.
Make the terrorist more swarthy?
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Old May 17 2013, 11:45 PM   #2662
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Old May 17 2013, 11:47 PM   #2663
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He actually has differentiated himself from Bush. We are now shipping arms to our enemies, we are using drones more often to wack a terrorist than capturing them for intelligence purposes. There are more drone strikes under Obama then Bush, and Obama has no problem using them against citizens without due process. So there are big big differences if you pay attention.

I am glad Trek has gone back to doing social commentary, it throws the ideas out there, you don't have to agree with it, but it throws the questions out there for it to be discussed.


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While I disagree with your first paragraph (vehemently), I don't think this is the right place for the discussion at this time.

That being said, Trekkies are now getting exactly what we want, a relevant and topical Star Trek that will be popular for everybody while still holding up it's ideals. Times are good!
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Old May 17 2013, 11:48 PM   #2664
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Is it just because I have short-term memory problems, or did Khan not actually say, in the films, "I will have my vengeance" and "your commanders have committed a crime I cannot forgive"?
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Old May 17 2013, 11:54 PM   #2665
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There's a lot of the voice over in the trailers that doesn't appear in the movie. Either they trimmed a scene or two, or the dialogue was written for the trailer.

Certainly Pike's dialogue in the trailers isn't lifted from his scenes - the gist is the same, but different wording and attitude.
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Old May 17 2013, 11:56 PM   #2666
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There's a lot of the voice over in the trailers that doesn't appear in the movie. Either they trimmed a scene or two, or the dialogue was written for the trailer.

Certainly Pike's dialogue in the trailers isn't lifted from his scenes - the gist is the same, but different wording and attitude.
Which was a whole lot better (that was one of my favourite scenes). I guess the rest will be extras on the deluxe 3-D/2-D Blu-ray/DVD/Digital Copy release in November.
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Old May 18 2013, 12:02 AM   #2667
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As an all-action, sci-fi adventure movie, it was a success.

As a genuinely well-written and fresh and vibrant piece of Star Trek, it failed.
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Old May 18 2013, 12:22 AM   #2668
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Found an article by Jason Bailey. http://flavorwire.com/391410/guess-w...never-happened

It's interesting to see some actual resaerch confirms what I've been grumbling about in Trek. Here's what it says about STID:

"Star Trek Into Darkness has two women as well: Zoe Saldana’s Uhura, who is tough and smart, although most of her screen time is devoted to the particulars of her romantic relationship with Spock, and the new character of Dr. Carol Marcus (Alice Eve), a brilliant scientist who nonetheless gets an underwear scene that plays like the dictionary definition of “gratuitous.”"

Actually, he forgot the mom, two hookers, and some nurses, although all their dialogue added together was less than Keenser's, plus Aisha Hind's bald navigator.

Still, he goes on to say:

"And the other excuse that you’ll often hear is the old “hey, we’re just giving people what they want” standby — that the reason we see so many movies aimed squarely at teenage boys and thus unconcerned with girls (EW GROSS COOTIES) is that they’re the audience that’s going to the movies, so Hollywood is merely making the comic book flicks and gross-out comedies that they demand. Trouble is, that notion is bulls***. Earlier this year, the MPAA released their annual statistical rundown of who goes to the movies — and guess what, women go. More than men."

So PLEASE guys, you probably have one more shot to do this right plus the ongoing comic series and maybe an animated series and maybe a live Trek series... Please stop sidelining female characters.

Let's see the re-imaging of the Chapel/Korby story in the ongoing comic, lets see Janice Rand hand evil Kirk his a** on a plate and next time they need a psychiatrist, lets see Helen Noel, the next time they need an astrobiologist, let's see Ann Mulhall, and let's see Ilia and Chief Difalco put some time in at the navigator's console.
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Old May 18 2013, 12:23 AM   #2669
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Admiral Buzzkill wrote: View Post
There's a lot of the voice over in the trailers that doesn't appear in the movie. Either they trimmed a scene or two, or the dialogue was written for the trailer.

Certainly Pike's dialogue in the trailers isn't lifted from his scenes - the gist is the same, but different wording and attitude.
It seems to happen quite a bit. In the IM3 trailers, the Mandarin had dialogue that was not in the movie, for example.

I've wondered a time or two where this type of dialogue comes from: older versions of the script, scenes edited out of the movie, dialogue recorded for the trailer?

But... I've never been meticulous enough, or honestly really cared enough, to actually try to match it up with DVD extras or whatever.


One other thing: was that actually an A.I. or mechanical crew member on the bridge, or did I misread that? Thought he was pretty cool.
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Old May 18 2013, 12:24 AM   #2670
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I wish Uhura was the character she was in the original movies as well, the strong and useful character who actually did things like humorously read Klingon and dance like a stripper.
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