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Star Trek Movies XI+ Discuss J.J. Abrams' rebooted Star Trek here.

View Poll Results: Grade the movie...
A+ 143 19.32%
A 160 21.62%
A- 99 13.38%
B+ 82 11.08%
B 58 7.84%
B- 27 3.65%
C+ 40 5.41%
C 38 5.14%
C- 24 3.24%
D+ 11 1.49%
D 13 1.76%
D- 10 1.35%
F 35 4.73%
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Old May 17 2013, 07:22 PM   #2581
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Re: STAR TREK INTO DARKNESS - Grading & Discussion [SPOILERS]

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I'm not saying that the inclusion of 'Nimoy-Spock' was a bad thing...
I am.

It really made no sense at all.
Actually, it does. Notice how as soon as NuSpock asks "how" the original crew beat Khan, they cut scene. If I had to guess, Spock probably said something along the lines of "we hoodwinked him," which is exactly what NuSpock proceeded to do. Spock Prime probably gave him the inspiration for what they did with the torpedoes.
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Old May 17 2013, 07:26 PM   #2582
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I'm not saying that the inclusion of 'Nimoy-Spock' was a bad thing...
I am.

It really made no sense at all.
Actually, it does. Notice how as soon as NuSpock asks "how" the original crew beat Khan, they cut scene. If I had to guess, Spock probably said something along the lines of "we hoodwinked him," which is exactly what NuSpock proceeded to do. Spock Prime probably gave him the inspiration for what they did with the torpedoes.
Yeah, it's pretty obvious. The next time we see Spock he's ordering doctors and engineers to dismantle the torpedoes.
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Old May 17 2013, 07:28 PM   #2583
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I'm not saying that the inclusion of 'Nimoy-Spock' was a bad thing...
I am.

It really made no sense at all.
Actually, it does. Notice how as soon as NuSpock asks "how" the original crew beat Khan, they cut scene. If I had to guess, Spock probably said something along the lines of "we hoodwinked him," which is exactly what NuSpock proceeded to do. Spock Prime probably gave him the inspiration for what they did with the torpedoes.
Well yeah - when it's observed during the "Kirk dying" scene that Spock defeated Khan "by giving him what he wanted" it's an allusion to moments in TWOK like Kirk offering to beam the Genesis device to Reliant. That dialogue is matched with Kirk saying that sacrificing himself for the ship is what Spock would have done.
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Old May 17 2013, 07:28 PM   #2584
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Trek's full of these stupid little inconsistencies, too. Maybe Spock has a special protected and secure line to Spock Prime. Who knows?
The Spock Phone!
Yes. It's red, and Spock Prime keeps his on his desk under a crystal dome. However, it doesn't go, beep, beep, beep, as it flashes when Spock calls, it does the Nokia ring tone.
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Old May 17 2013, 07:31 PM   #2585
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i wonder why lines like "You think you world is safe? It is an illusion. A comforting lie told to protect you. Enjoy these final moments of peace. For I have returned to have my vengeance. "Your are a pawn, Kirk," "Your commanders have committed a crime I cannot forgive." "Darkness is coming" were cut from the movie. bascially quotes from trailers.
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Old May 17 2013, 07:34 PM   #2586
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Another thought: About JJAbrams Enterpise interiors..I think it's firmly established now that unlike previous Star Treks, the ships are basically open caverns, super spacious with many areas absent of rooms. I absolutely LOVE this! There's really a conveyance of scale with such scenes, especially in ones where they are running from place to place or the ship is minus gravity. In ST09 they did it in a limited way, showing scenes of the infamous brewery, but STID upped it several levels, and looked better.
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Old May 17 2013, 07:36 PM   #2587
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Trek's full of these stupid little inconsistencies, too. Maybe Spock has a special protected and secure line to Spock Prime. Who knows?
The Spock Phone!
Yes. It's red, and Spock Prime keeps his on his desk under a crystal dome. However, it doesn't go, beep, beep, beep, as it flashes when Spock calls, it does the Nokia ring tone.
It should be green!
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Old May 17 2013, 07:36 PM   #2588
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Another thought about JJAbrams Enterpise interiors..I think it's firmly established now that unlike previous Star Treks, the ships are basically open caverns, super spacious with many areas absent of rooms. I absolutely LOVE this! There's really a conveyance of scale with such scenes, especially in ones where they are running from place to place or the ship is minus gravity. In ST09 they did it in a limited way, showing scenes of the infamous brewery, but STID upped it several levels, and looked better.
Makes one wonder just how cavernous the spaces on the Vengeance must be...

And since it needs minimal crew... Why ?
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Old May 17 2013, 07:36 PM   #2589
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I do love that they kept they "surgery on a torpedo" idea from TUC at least twice.
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Old May 17 2013, 07:38 PM   #2590
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Trek's full of these stupid little inconsistencies, too. Maybe Spock has a special protected and secure line to Spock Prime. Who knows?
The Spock Phone!
Even though it seems like the new crew should maybe stand on their own in this movie, doesn't it almost make sense that they should be exploiting old Spock for everything he knows about everything? I mean, I'd be on that Spock Phone EVERY DAY.


Well, I've got my tickets and am going with the wife and friends tonight. I'm very excited, but am going to try hard not to be too nitpicky. It's weird, I'm not really that nitpicky about any other fiction I watch, but there's just something about Star Trek that brings out this really nerdy part of me. I'm not sure why that is exactly.
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Old May 17 2013, 07:39 PM   #2591
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Trek's full of these stupid little inconsistencies, too. Maybe Spock has a special protected and secure line to Spock Prime. Who knows?
The Spock Phone!
Even though it seems like the new crew should maybe stand on their own in this movie, doesn't it almost make sense that they should be exploiting old Spock for everything he knows about everything? I mean, I'd be on that Spock Phone EVERY DAY.


Well, I've got my tickets and am going the wife and friends tonight. I'm very excited, but am going to try hard not to be too nitpicky. It's weird, I'm not really that nitpicky about any other fiction I watch, but there's just something about Star Trek that brings out this really nerdy part of me. I'm not sure why that is exactly.
It's a Good/Bad Thing...

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Old May 17 2013, 07:39 PM   #2592
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Well, I've got my tickets and am going the wife and friends tonight. I'm very excited, but am going to try hard not to be too nitpicky. It's weird, I'm not really that nitpicky about any other fiction I watch, but there's just something about Star Trek that brings out this really nerdy part of me. I'm not sure why that is exactly.
It really is a great movie, in my opinion.
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Old May 17 2013, 07:44 PM   #2593
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It's a Good/Bad Thing...

Keeps us Genuine Trek Nerds.
I dunno, I don't think I want to be that anymore. I mean, if I don't pick the hell out of something like The Walking Dead (which believe me, that show is infinitely pickable), why should I be so anal about Star Trek? Maybe it's because I've just stuck with it for so long, know way more about it than any person really should, and just have a lot invested. I kinda wanna let go and just be able to enjoy these movies in the same way that I enjoy Star Wars.
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Old May 17 2013, 07:45 PM   #2594
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What finally convinced Paramount to throw so much money at a Star Trek movie anyway? They've always been so tight fisted before.
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Old May 17 2013, 07:46 PM   #2595
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Well, I've got my tickets and am going the wife and friends tonight. I'm very excited, but am going to try hard not to be too nitpicky. It's weird, I'm not really that nitpicky about any other fiction I watch, but there's just something about Star Trek that brings out this really nerdy part of me. I'm not sure why that is exactly.
It really is a great movie, in my opinion.

Im forcing myself not to go again today. My wife rarely watches a movie twice and she said she wouldn't mind seeing it again. Going again with some family on Sunday. Can't wait for my nephew (a big SW fan) to see it.

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