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Old May 16 2013, 08:07 PM   #16
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Re: Chakotay and Janeway romance

Ah, I getcha now. Never heard that one before.
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Old May 16 2013, 08:17 PM   #17
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Too many damn Bobbies.

Bobby Picardo was of course married, so he was out of bounds and a perfect gentleman.
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Old May 16 2013, 11:03 PM   #18
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Bobby Beltran, not Bobby McNeil.

Highly rumoured, possibly real, not confirmed.
I have never heard this rumor.

I need scandalous rumor links stat.
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Old May 17 2013, 04:25 AM   #19
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Geez, I heard that rumor while the show was still on the air, and far beyond Beltran's joking around. But never from someone with first- or secondhand knowledge.
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Old May 17 2013, 04:39 AM   #20
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Too many damn Bobbies.

Bobby Picardo was of course married, so he was out of bounds and a perfect gentleman.
WTF I've seen every episode of Voyager, most many times over and I never realized there are indeed THREE Roberts. I feel so stupid for not realizing that before LOL. I usually call McNeil "Bobby", Robert Picardo... well, Robert Picardo. Beltran I just call Beltran. I seriously should have realized that months ago... what the heck!

About Chakotay and Janeway, I am a J/C fan and even though I am not in love with the relaunch novels, I am so glad that they did finally get the two of them together at the end.

Janeway and Chakotay showed a lot of promise in the beginning of the series. Then when she gets the news that Mark had remarried...I mean, come on...

Kate Mulgrew was against the first female captain "sleeping with her crew", but I don't think she realized that the character didn't have to just sleep around... Janeway and Chakotay could have had a long, deep, meaningful relationship. Even if they stuck it in during the end of Season 7, it would have been a more logical progression than C/7.

She won't have a meaningful relationship with someone on her crew, but she was willing to sleep with a hologram in Fair Haven??? Nothing against holograms (the Doctor is my favorite), but UGH. I believe Chakotay genuinely cared for Janeway.
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Old May 17 2013, 05:03 AM   #21
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Young Janeway from Shattered asked if she was doing it with the terrorist in the future.

A less honourable man would have said "Yes, would you care for a preview of things to come?"

He could have tacked Seska during that adventure in the same way "Good lord woman, get over yourself! We come to an accord the day after tomorrow, and figure out how to share custody of our son selflessly, hell you even sleep over sometimes, you don't have to be a bad person, you don't have to be a monster, we get to be a family and 5 years from now we're all most all the way back to Cardassia."
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Old May 17 2013, 05:18 AM   #22
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She won't have a meaningful relationship with someone on her crew, but she was willing to sleep with a hologram in Fair Haven??? Nothing against holograms (the Doctor is my favorite), but UGH. I believe Chakotay genuinely cared for Janeway.
The Fair Haven hologram is just a pretty vibrator with a charming accent.
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Old May 17 2013, 05:19 AM   #23
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He could have tacked Seska during that adventure in the same way "Good lord woman, get over yourself! We come to an accord the day after tomorrow, and figure out how to share custody of our son selflessly, hell you even sleep over sometimes, you don't have to be a bad person, you don't have to be a monster, we get to be a family and 5 years from now we're all most all the way back to Cardassia."
That's a brilliant suggestion. Sadly, too brilliant and manipulative for Chakotay. Would have been hilarious to see in action though. Who isn't susceptible to someone from the future making announcements about what decisions you'll make and why it makes you happy? I know I would be, if I hadn't seen so much science fiction
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Old May 17 2013, 06:00 PM   #24
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She won't have a meaningful relationship with someone on her crew, but she was willing to sleep with a hologram in Fair Haven??? Nothing against holograms (the Doctor is my favorite), but UGH. I believe Chakotay genuinely cared for Janeway.
The Fair Haven hologram is just a pretty vibrator with a charming accent.
Did anyone else notice this guy in Game of Thones last season? He was one of Lord Tywin's toadies.

Maybe a Moonlighting style J/C romance would have worked - little bits of flirtation here and there building up to some sort of climax at the end of their 7 year run.
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Old May 17 2013, 06:36 PM   #25
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She won't have a meaningful relationship with someone on her crew, but she was willing to sleep with a hologram in Fair Haven??? Nothing against holograms (the Doctor is my favorite), but UGH. I believe Chakotay genuinely cared for Janeway.
The Fair Haven hologram is just a pretty vibrator with a charming accent.
Did anyone else notice this guy in Game of Thones last season? He was one of Lord Tywin's toadies.

Maybe a Moonlighting style J/C romance would have worked - little bits of flirtation here and there building up to some sort of climax at the end of their 7 year run.
I would have loved this.
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Old May 17 2013, 06:37 PM   #26
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That would've made for sense than Chakotay and Seven hooking up out of the blue in season 7.
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Old May 17 2013, 11:29 PM   #27
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That would've made for sense than Chakotay and Seven hooking up out of the blue in season 7.
I extremely dislike the Chakotay/7 ship... not even because I'm hardcore J/C (well maybe a little bit hehe). But yeah...I just... nooooo. Don't ask me why though. I just can't see it working. I know Seven changed a lot by Season 7 and she is one of my favorite characters on Trek ever, but just not a perfect match for Chakotay, I think.

And yeah to other poster --> I would have been fine with a subtle hint at something more... something at least maybe *suggesting* the idea of them getting together once they were back on Earth.

I understand if they couldn't be together because they served on a Starship together... but they could have become more than friends once they were back on Earth and taking a deserved, long vacation from space travel.
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Old May 18 2013, 12:03 AM   #28
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-Harry Kim- would've been a more natural match for Seven than Chakotay... I really don't feel they needed to pair her with anyone to complete her character arc... but it's season seven and they're running out of ideas so they have to hook her up with someone of course....

Janeway and Chakotay... at least you can see the foundation and interest is there. Though I guess you can argue Chakotay not agreeing with her in Scorpion ruined it because you never really see any hints of sparks after that.
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Old May 18 2013, 12:41 AM   #29
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Her boyfriends name, he might have been her husband, was Auxum.

He should have been moving heaven and earth to get back to her side.

And after wading through oceans of blood, completing a number of Hercluean tasks, of course he had to walk in on Seven and Chuckles snuggling.

Seriously.

It's not being on the other side of the galaxy even means anything any more when you have access to a Transwarp hub.

...

You know who I always felt sorry for?

Mulchaey.

Typical ordinary guy, probably thought his chances at tricking Seven into falling in love was about as good as anyone elses. Certainly better than Harry's.

Right?

Then there's this stupid transporter accident afterwhich there's a 29th century Drone wandering around with his face... Is it his son? Is it his brother? Is it an abomination who needs to be put down? Why does everyone like the Drone better than they like him?

Surely there's only room for one Mulchaey on Voyager!

(Unfortunately that may be be true, but it's the original Mulchaey there is no room for. Poor bastard.)

But this #### with his face is simultaneously her son, her best friend and if you squint, it's almost a certainly they're a week or two away from being lovers, at which point SHE'LL BE MAKING BABIES WITH HIS DNA!!! HE HAS RIGHTS!

Surely it's rape if she's having his babies without his permission?

But anyhow...

Dudes been blacklisted.

Too painful to look at him.

Reminds the girl of the cheap copy.

No Seven for Mulchaey.

Ever.
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Old May 18 2013, 12:55 AM   #30
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-Harry Kim- would've been a more natural match for Seven than Chakotay... I really don't feel they needed to pair her with anyone to complete her character arc... but it's season seven and they're running out of ideas so they have to hook her up with someone of course....
Kim was a loser. Seven deserved a manly man, someone like Worf. Too bad they were lacking in that department on VOY.
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