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Star Trek Movies XI+ Discuss J.J. Abrams' rebooted Star Trek here.

View Poll Results: Grade the movie...
A+ 144 19.35%
A 161 21.64%
A- 100 13.44%
B+ 82 11.02%
B 58 7.80%
B- 27 3.63%
C+ 40 5.38%
C 38 5.11%
C- 24 3.23%
D+ 11 1.48%
D 13 1.75%
D- 10 1.34%
F 36 4.84%
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Old May 17 2013, 03:12 PM   #2536
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Re: STAR TREK INTO DARKNESS - Grading & Discussion [SPOILERS]

Maybe the Enterprise had the broadside torpedo bays as part of the military build up that was happening in Starfleet. Will be interesting to see if they are still there in the next movie.


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Old May 17 2013, 03:14 PM   #2537
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I was a little disappointed that Kirk didn't say 'Second Star to the right, and straight on til morning' or something like that at the end of the film, what with all the other references that were in there. Nevermind.
I added my own, "Out there. Thataway" on premiere night. I thought I'd only just beat him to it.
I'm glad I'm not the only one who hoped for that line to come out. The moment just seemed so appropriate.
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Old May 17 2013, 03:22 PM   #2538
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A- Really enjoyed this one! Mostly positives. The characters were great. Unlike ST09, I can really buy into them as the characters they are portraying (except perhaps Scotty). There were great moments between the characters too.

The story was great. Definitely lots of interesting things going on. The SFx, as expect, were superb. No problems there.

I was expecting to really enjoy Cumberbatch, and I did. However, all the comparisons to TWOK really reminded me that I just preferred Montablans (sp?) portrayal of Khan over Cumberbatch's.

There were so many references to the original series, and movies, that they definitely treated the franchise with respect.

In the end, this movie was probably the best it could be with the rebooted characters. I don't mean that as a slight at all. I was impressed with how much I could connect with them after just 2 movies.

However, it's just hard to compete with characters/actors that we've watched for decades vs just 2 movies. Some of the meaningful moments just meant less because with just a few hours of screen time, I was less invested in the characters.

So, great movie! Really enjoyed it! Can't quite compete with the best of the non-reboot movies through no fault of their own.

Mr Awe

I thought BC was terrific as Khan. I loved him more than Montalban in Star Trek 2 but not as much as in Space Seed. He got to DO something. In Wrath of Khan, he spends the entire film on the Reliant quoting Milton and ancient Klingon proverbs.

In Space Seed he was ruthless and cunning and wasn’t afraid to have someone slap Uhura around and torture and kill.

But his weakness remains the same. In Space Seed Kirk got the upper hand when he beat Khan senseless with a pipe. Here, despite Khan’s awesome skull crushing finishing move, Spock pulls a metal handled off of the floating garbage scow and beats Khan in the face to get the upper hand.
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Old May 17 2013, 03:25 PM   #2539
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I still think Karl Urban is being sickeningly underutilized.
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Old May 17 2013, 04:01 PM   #2540
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Amasov wrote: View Post
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I was a little disappointed that Kirk didn't say 'Second Star to the right, and straight on til morning' or something like that at the end of the film, what with all the other references that were in there. Nevermind.
I added my own, "Out there. Thataway" on premiere night. I thought I'd only just beat him to it.
I'm glad I'm not the only one who hoped for that line to come out. The moment just seemed so appropriate.

I was really hoping for that away as well.


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Old May 17 2013, 04:03 PM   #2541
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I still think Karl Urban is being sickeningly underutilized.

Me too, Less Uhura more McCoy!


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Old May 17 2013, 04:04 PM   #2542
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Nah. More Uhura.

More Carol Marcus, for that matter. McCoy is fine where he is.
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Old May 17 2013, 04:10 PM   #2543
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I still think Karl Urban is being sickeningly underutilized.
Well, they can't do everything. I'd rather see Uhura and Carol Marcus have substantial roles.

Urban is really good as McCoy, though.
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Old May 17 2013, 04:18 PM   #2544
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I wasn't sure where to put this, a fun clip, some Trek scenes from the movie but with a twist at the end.
http://www.nbc.com/the-tonight-show/...rkness/n37000/

If your a fan of the other series JJ is working on you will so get this.
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Old May 17 2013, 04:18 PM   #2545
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Some of the themes within the action are just starting to sink in for me. I especially like the Kirk/Pike exchange over what happened on Nibiru. It's a Prime Directive issue and for the first time I can think of, I can see where each side is coming from even if I don't entirely agree with Pike. I also liked what Spock said about why he chooses not to feel anything. It got me thinking a bit about how the Vulcans as well as a lot of eastern philosophies relate attachment to suffering.
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Old May 17 2013, 04:33 PM   #2546
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I just saw the movie in IMAX 3d...I do not think I can ever watch a Star Trek movie in 2d again...awesome! Loved the warp drive graphics. My favorite part ( which is small, insignificant, and silly....my trek pet peeve).... They had seatbelts!! I always complain about the lack of seatbelts in Voyager...


I loved the character development and humor! Although, my husband, me, and the guy down from me in the same row were the only people laughing, and the theatre was only 10-15 percent filled....
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Old May 17 2013, 04:35 PM   #2547
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The "message" in this movie that startled and pleased me was this one: it's immoral to kill people with remote missiles without benefit of trial. Wow...imagine that.
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Old May 17 2013, 04:43 PM   #2548
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cbspock wrote: View Post
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I added my own, "Out there. Thataway" on premiere night. I thought I'd only just beat him to it.
I'm glad I'm not the only one who hoped for that line to come out. The moment just seemed so appropriate.

I was really hoping for that away as well.


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I really thought it would be

Kirk: Where shall we go?

Spock with raised eyebrow: Where none have gone before.
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Old May 17 2013, 04:50 PM   #2549
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Chu'lak wrote: View Post
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I'm glad I'm not the only one who hoped for that line to come out. The moment just seemed so appropriate.

I was really hoping for that away as well.


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Kirk: Where shall we go?

Spock with raised eyebrow: Where none have gone before.
That would have been good too, but maybe would have gotten an UGH reaction from the audience. I thought for sure they would have used thataway, it would have been the perfect time to use it.


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Old May 17 2013, 05:00 PM   #2550
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The "message" in this movie that startled and pleased me was this one: it's immoral to kill people with remote missiles without benefit of trial. Wow...imagine that.
I guess that depends. You can do anything you want to terrorists, they aren't protected and are deliberately excluded from the Geneva Conventions. The problem really is sending those drones into Klingon territory to do it. I don't think Harrison was a terrorist, Marcus just called him that to justify his unlawful order. He rushed things along before someone called him on his orders. Dead men tell no tales. You would think Starfleet would want to capture him alive if possible see who else he is working with, etc.

Pretty topical since Obama loves using drones to off people instead of capturing them for intel, also not getting permission from the country he is targeting people in as well.

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