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Old May 14 2013, 10:13 AM   #16
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Re: Novel feature by Empire Film Magazine

Just noticed that the writer of the article posted a comment under it to say he has been reading Trek books for twenty years so at least it was written by someone with some knowledge of the books. Maybe he has not read Voyager yet which is why he did not include it?
Personally speaking, I have been reading Trek books now for 13 years but have not read Stargazer and only one Gorkon novel, so if I was putting together a feature I would probably not include them.
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Old May 14 2013, 10:31 AM   #17
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If the person writing the article was thinking in terms of novels for adult fans, "Mission to Horatius" wouldn't have come into his
Even if it was released as a part of a children's line, the book has since been reissued as part of the adult line, and thus, it is the first tie-in.
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Old May 14 2013, 01:58 PM   #18
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Kind of odd that they didn't include the Voyager Re-Relaunch.
The focus of the article was on the series that were original to the books, rather than the continuations of the shows. The writer made an exception for the DS9 post-finale books because of their importance and quality.
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Old May 14 2013, 08:06 PM   #19
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They also totally screwed up the explanation for how to get out of the dungeon without using the wizard key!
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Old May 15 2013, 12:08 PM   #20
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Re: Novel feature by Empire Film Magazine

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If the person writing the article was thinking in terms of novels for adult fans, "Mission to Horatius" wouldn't have come into his
Even if it was released as a part of a children's line, the book has since been reissued as part of the adult line, and thus, it is the first tie-in.
No one is disputing its status as "the first tie-in". As I said, I've owned a copy of "Mission to Horatius" since the 60s, long before I really knew what Star Trek was!

I was attempting to suggest how and why it is often overlooked. Adults reading the article are unlikely to want to be recommended a YA novel. Magazine article authors consider their audience; a similar article in a magazine for kids would be the place to make a fuss over past kidlit tie-ins.
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Old May 15 2013, 11:34 PM   #21
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^Unless they're Harry Potter, The Hunger Games, Twilight, The Hobbit, Percy Jackson, ect.
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Old May 16 2013, 12:37 PM   #22
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I was attempting to suggest how and why it is often overlooked. Adults reading the article are unlikely to want to be recommended a YA novel. Magazine article authors consider their audience; a similar article in a magazine for kids would be the place to make a fuss over past kidlit tie-ins.
But, if you look at the articles wording, the only books that the author set off to the side are the novelizations. The author did not make any statement that he was only looking at the adult line. Thus they were in error.
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Old May 16 2013, 02:38 PM   #23
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Re: Novel feature by Empire Film Magazine

No-one's saying there wasn't an error - Therin was just coming up with an idea as to why they may have made that mistake.
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Old May 17 2013, 02:52 PM   #24
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^Unless they're Harry Potter, The Hunger Games, Twilight, The Hobbit, Percy Jackson, ect.
Which are all way more sophisticated that the Whitman TV tie-ins of the 60s.

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No-one's saying there wasn't an error - Therin was just coming up with an idea as to why they may have made that mistake.
Exactly. Even many lists of ST books of the 80s and 90s omitted "Mission to Horatius".

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The author did not make any statement that he was only looking at the adult line. Thus they were in error.
I hope you've written a letter-to-the-editor at "Empire" magazine.
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Old May 17 2013, 03:06 PM   #25
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I had never even heard of it until the recent reissue. My first reaction to that was "Wait- there was a Star Trek book before Spock Must Die?? No way!" And I'd been an avid novel collector for decades.

Is it worth reading? I never actually bothered to check it out.
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Old May 17 2013, 03:14 PM   #26
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^Same here -- I never knew Horatius had existed until it was reissued.
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Old May 17 2013, 11:38 PM   #27
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I had never even heard of it until the recent reissue. My first reaction to that was "Wait- there was a Star Trek book before Spock Must Die?? No way!" And I'd been an avid novel collector for decades.

Is it worth reading? I never actually bothered to check it out.

It's not great. If you miss it, life will go on just fine.

If you've read lots of Astounding/Analog stories from the '50's & '60's, it will make more sense. It's very Campbellian in not-so-subtle ways. Star Trek (the TV series) was never as "Astounding" as Reynold's novel.
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Old May 18 2013, 12:30 AM   #28
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I had never even heard of it until the recent reissue. My first reaction to that was "Wait- there was a Star Trek book before Spock Must Die?? No way!" And I'd been an avid novel collector for decades.
I spent most of 1980 running from second hand bookshop to second hand bookshop, attempted to complete my collection. There was no definitive list, and I eventually went to the State Library to check all annual volumes of "Books in Print" to ensure I had everything from Bantam's output.

In one shop, they had a tattered and motley collection of Whitman's TV tie-in hardcovers and "Mission to Horatius" was $AU 70. I suddenly remembered that I had the "I Spy" volume at home, and that my younger brother had owned "Mission to Horatius" - Christmas gifts from grandma in the 60s - and that I'd read his book when I was home from school with the flu in about 1970.

I raced home and found his copy in the bottom of the old toybox. I never told him I'd seen poor condition versions for $70. Win!
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Old May 18 2013, 02:45 AM   #29
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I had never even heard of it until the recent reissue. My first reaction to that was "Wait- there was a Star Trek book before Spock Must Die?? No way!" And I'd been an avid novel collector for decades.

Is it worth reading? I never actually bothered to check it out.

I got the book for my birthday back in '99 (it was the Reprint). I find that it's a lot better than the Bantam books, and I've read the book about 4 times since '99.
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Old May 18 2013, 01:10 PM   #30
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Kind of odd that they didn't include the Voyager Re-Relaunch.
The focus of the article was on the series that were original to the books, rather than the continuations of the shows. The writer made an exception for the DS9 post-finale books because of their importance and quality.
Take note Pocket Books!
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