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Old May 11 2013, 10:35 AM   #46
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Re: TrekCore: "Important News about DS9 in HD Coming May 10"

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Hm, not sure, it's still quite CG looking, unlike the original DVD version.
Doesn't the article say the picture was a quick test of what it could look like. So the fully finished article might look slightly different.
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Old May 11 2013, 10:46 AM   #47
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Re: TrekCore: "Important News about DS9 in HD Coming May 10"

And how many times did we have in the TNG HD screens the reaction, that, well that looks OK but not spectacular, and when in motion we remained astonished? I always said a single frame is not enough, in motion it looks different single frames do not do justice.
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Old May 11 2013, 10:57 AM   #48
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True, it's hard to judge from a single frame.
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Old May 12 2013, 12:27 PM   #49
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Re: TrekCore: "Important News about DS9 in HD Coming May 10"

That still looks CGI, because it is. CGI will never look as filmic as model work. It looked like CGI on the DVD as well. To say otherwise is a bit silly. With digital techniques, they could make the CGI look more like film, but I will always see the difference.

The most important thing is that the improvement in quality is staggering. And we should all be thankful that these companies saved their files.
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Old May 12 2013, 01:51 PM   #50
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Nice news.
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Old May 12 2013, 07:10 PM   #51
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This is fantastic news! I've always felt that once Paramount green lit TNG in HD they would eventually get around to DS9 and VOY. Star Trek is still a big cash cow and with the new Star Trek movie out (or just about out for some), it will only generate new interest in the franchise.

The fact the the majority of CGI is saved is amazing!!!!! I feel as though the technical staff on Star Trek had a foresight that the Producers and the studio lacked!!!

The good thing about DS9 is that the show actually didn't start heavily into CGI until the 6th season. The first 5 seasons were largely model work (even the big Klingon battle in way of the warrior). And the station itself was always a model they only CGI shot of deep space nine is in the final second of the show where Kira and Jake look out the window and the station fades away.
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Old May 13 2013, 12:31 PM   #52
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This is fantastic news! I've always felt that once Paramount green lit TNG in HD they would eventually get around to DS9 and VOY.
CBS greenlit TNG in HD. Paramount only holds rights to the movies.
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Old May 14 2013, 03:02 AM   #53
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Hm, not sure, it's still quite CG looking, unlike the original DVD version.
I dunno, the original DVD version just looks like CG rendered at D1 res to me. There's nothing particularly magical about it, other than the fact that it has an incredibly low amount of visible detail (as you would expect). It certainly doesn't look any more like a physical model than the new 1080p render.

Here's what the miniature looked like in Generations:

An observation about how it looked in GEN:

ILM did a really bad paint job biased heavily into blue, which was still on it when I saw the model during the making of FIRST CONTACT. It actually looked from a distance like one of those cardboard Enterprises you'd see in a Tower Records movie department back then. Since this particular model was not painted that way during the series that I can recall, it might not be the best example.

I do agree that the original series image you posted is nothing great ... however, I think it could easily be spruced up by playing with the contrast levels (which is what they really needed to do on TRIALS & TRIBB, because those excellent models read like mediocre CG to my eye, due to the lack of contrast and snap to the image.)

If DS9 were remastered with an eye toward making most of the exterior ship VFX -- i.e., resemble the Wolf 359 battle in terms of really black shadow sides and contrast -- the series would probably emerge as having its own distinctive look, one that would match its equally distinctive creative voice in the writing department - that'd make for the best of both blah-blah-blahs.
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Old May 16 2013, 05:53 AM   #54
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Q: Would people who do not like things 'changing' in remastered versions object if the repeated 'battle scene' in the final episode (pulled from a couple of previous episodes) was replaced with a new battle sequence? It bugs me tremendously that there basically isn't a new battle scene in the final episode, and that the 'epic confrontation' we had spent four years building up to was basically... a clips show. Given that this was PURELY the result of budgetary problems- that the original creators, given their druthers, would have included a new VFX sequence- would anyone object to these sequences being replaced?
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Old May 16 2013, 07:30 AM   #55
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^Short answer. No

It would also allow hem to fix the Defiant's registry.
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Old May 16 2013, 07:32 AM   #56
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As for blu-ray sales, remember some people might be waiting for the complete series collection before buying.
That kind of thinking kills blu-ray sales...
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Old May 16 2013, 09:32 AM   #57
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It would also allow hem to fix the Defiant's registry.
I don't really want them to fix the nu-Defiant's registry, though, because I like the explanation given for it in the books, and I don't want that negated.

But new battle scene, yes absolutely.

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Old May 17 2013, 02:49 AM   #58
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A blu ray release would be fantastic .. ideally with some new extras on it.
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Old May 17 2013, 03:06 AM   #59
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Shut up and take my money!
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Old May 18 2013, 07:00 AM   #60
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A blu ray release would be fantastic .. ideally with some new extras on it.

Even with that it wouldn't be worth buying if commentaries aren't included.
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