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Old May 14 2013, 06:21 PM   #451
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^Considering how ferocious Irisa was at the start of the love scene, I don't think her expression was meant to show lack of interest. The makeup appliance might make it harder to read her expressions from some angles.
I also think there's something to that look. Maybe not lack of interest but more like an introspective look. We know Irisa and Tommy didn't have the time to develop a deep relationship. In the next episode it's most probable that Tommy and Irisa won't be an item, in the sense of a full fledged couple based of love and sharing of values. We didn't see them interact that much on screen and in TV shows, we usually get much more screen time (a bit less in movie) to build a relationship until the climax moment when they first make love. It was not the case here. So the relationship seems to be based on the heat of the moment kind of thing. Maybe Tommy will have his heart broken. at least, at first, then maybe the situation will evolve beyond that or not.

Overall, an enjoyable episode. While it's not yet a series for the ages, it is part of my TV shows rotation.
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Old May 14 2013, 08:10 PM   #452
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^Considering how ferocious Irisa was at the start of the love scene, I don't think her expression was meant to show lack of interest. The makeup appliance might make it harder to read her expressions from some angles.
I also think there's something to that look. Maybe not lack of interest but more like an introspective look. We know Irisa and Tommy didn't have the time to develop a deep relationship. In the next episode it's most probable that Tommy and Irisa won't be an item, in the sense of a full fledged couple based of love and sharing of values. We didn't see them interact that much on screen and in TV shows, we usually get much more screen time (a bit less in movie) to build a relationship until the climax moment when they first make love. It was not the case here. So the relationship seems to be based on the heat of the moment kind of thing. Maybe Tommy will have his heart broken. at least, at first, then maybe the situation will evolve beyond that or not.
The cynic in me is screaming that Tommy's days are now officially numbered and he'll be killed off pretty soon, but I'm hoping that's just cynicism.
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Old May 14 2013, 08:59 PM   #453
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The cynic in me is screaming that Tommy's days are now officially numbered and he'll be killed off pretty soon, but I'm hoping that's just cynicism.
It's certainly possible when you consider TV shows culture. He's the type of character that is sympathetic enough so some of the main characters care about him, while being disposable enough in the overall storyline to be killed off. A type of character that everybody can mourn after a "surprising" death that hits close to home. Being in relation with Irisa makes him closer to home thus closer to be the "surprising" death many characters will mourns over after some deadly attack of some enemies. Heightening the sense of danger, urgency and desperation in such scenario. Although since his relationship with Irisa is not serious (as of yet of course), this mitigate this idea. Maybe he will be the character that tries to "open up" Irisa for us, not without some difficulty due to Irisa's personality, individualism and trust issues.
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Old May 14 2013, 10:30 PM   #454
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The cynic in me is screaming that Tommy's days are now officially numbered and he'll be killed off pretty soon, but I'm hoping that's just cynicism.
Before or after the shotgun wedding?

Actually that would be a great addition to the game.

Rather than being a on a bug hunt, you wander through the game marrying everyone, and how you win is literally to be married to everyone else playing the game.

Are their limits to their polygamy laws? One lady and 50 husbands? One lady and 400 husbands?
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Old May 14 2013, 11:50 PM   #455
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Maybe he will be the character that tries to "open up" Irisa for us, not without some difficulty due to Irisa's personality, individualism and trust issues.
Tries? Looked like she opened up just fine to me.
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Old May 15 2013, 12:06 AM   #456
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He's attracted to how closed off and grumpy she is.

Opening her up would ruin every thing.
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Old May 15 2013, 07:35 AM   #457
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She definitely looks bored shitless after they finish the love humping. It's very obvious and I think we are supposed to see it.

And speaking of expressions..



Why is this guy sleeping so peacefully with a little smile on his face when his wife has betrayed him, caused the death of his co-husband, planned for him to be expendable and now he's marooned in the desert and possibly gonna die?
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Old May 15 2013, 08:27 AM   #458
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His personality if obviously nihilative. He wants to give into a strong woman and become demolished. Actually being betrayed and almost killed by a strong woman is probably taking his spontaneous orgasm up to 11.

He graduated from politician to serial killer.

The lad knows what he likes.
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Old May 15 2013, 09:55 AM   #459
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That episode was a lot of fun. I liked the bookends of the radio show. The action on the bus was cool, liked the twist with the ambassador. Some good, funny dialogue and I liked seeing how Nolan saved his daughter.
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Old May 15 2013, 02:16 PM   #460
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I'm pretty sure Irisa's look was one of regret more than anything else.
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Old May 15 2013, 10:38 PM   #461
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Regret? Didn't see that. Boredom more like it.
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Old May 15 2013, 10:52 PM   #462
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I'm pretty sure Irisa's look was one of regret more than anything else.
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Regret? Didn't see that. Boredom more like it.
I am still holding on to she's alien and we don't know for sure. In all her social interactions she comes in an initial attack too hard for this human raised in Los Angeles. And then she backs down way to rapidly. It is what I mean when I said she runs hot and cold so far.
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Old May 16 2013, 01:46 AM   #463
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I don't know why, but I was getting a strange Fallout: New Vegas feeling while watching this episode.

So now it's Fallout: The Alien Nation of Deadwood.
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Old May 16 2013, 01:51 AM   #464
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I don't know why, but I was getting a strange Fallout: New Vegas feeling while watching this episode.

So now it's Fallout: The Alien Nation of Deadwood.
It's Gunsmoke, Gamma World, Fallout, Alien Nation and deadwood lol
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Old May 16 2013, 02:07 AM   #465
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Really enjoyed this episode. We got some interesting world building, and some good stuff in both the A and B stories. I knew we obviously weren't supposed to like the E-Rep Ambassador, but I didn't expect her to be full on evil. I also liked the backstory stuff we got for Irisa. I'm not quite sure what to make of her hooking up with the Deputy guy at the end.
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