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Star Trek Movies XI+ Discuss J.J. Abrams' rebooted Star Trek here.

View Poll Results: Grade the movie...
A+ 139 19.36%
A 157 21.87%
A- 98 13.65%
B+ 78 10.86%
B 58 8.08%
B- 27 3.76%
C+ 38 5.29%
C 37 5.15%
C- 23 3.20%
D+ 11 1.53%
D 13 1.81%
D- 6 0.84%
F 33 4.60%
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Old May 15 2013, 05:14 PM   #1996
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Re: STAR TREK INTO DARKNESS - Grading & Discussion [SPOILERS]

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Hahaha! I'm thinking though since this is an indirect remake of TWOK, imagine a remake of The Voyage Home with a touch of JJ Abrams..hmmm...
At least we get to see a new BOP. And Maybe JJ Prise will be ditched and we'll get something better. Wait, I don't want to see their attempt at modernizing the Refitted Constitution class.
The Enterprise was refitted at the end of the movie.
Yeah but it still looked the same.. Nothing new about how it looked externally..
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Old May 15 2013, 05:15 PM   #1997
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Here's a question for the Nerd Rage about "ripping off Wrath of Khan"


Was the Dark Knight a ripoff of Batman89?
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Old May 15 2013, 05:28 PM   #1998
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At least we get to see a new BOP. And Maybe JJ Prise will be ditched and we'll get something better. Wait, I don't want to see their attempt at modernizing the Refitted Constitution class.
The Enterprise was refitted at the end of the movie.
Yeah but it still looked the same.. Nothing new about how it looked externally..
Its got a giant impulse engine now, thats the only difference I noticed.
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Old May 15 2013, 05:31 PM   #1999
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Here's a question for the Nerd Rage about "ripping off Wrath of Khan"


Was the Dark Knight a ripoff of Batman89?
I didn't think so.

I did have some nerd rage during the warp core sequence because it is so similar to TWOK with even the same lines being uttered by a different character. Why go over the same scene so exactly? I didn't like it but maybe I will get over it with repeat viewings.

EDIT: It doesn't help that I have seen TWOK dozens of times over 20 years.... ! I think TWOK did that scene better.
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Old May 15 2013, 05:33 PM   #2000
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Ann Hornaday, movie critic of The Washington Post, gave a short but glowing, rave review of the movie today on Tony Kornheiser's radio show. She brought up an interesting point, too. To paraphrase her, this movie is also a prequel because the story is still about the growth and shaping of the characters into the people we knew from TOS. We've yet to see them at their best. She's looking forward to a third movie with a stronger story that challenges the characters in full form.
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Old May 15 2013, 05:36 PM   #2001
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Chu'lak wrote: View Post
Here's a question for the Nerd Rage about "ripping off Wrath of Khan"

Was the Dark Knight a ripoff of Batman89?
I didn't care for Batman before the Nolan versions. I thought Batman89 had its moments but was over hyped.

But in my book ST:TWOK is the best Star Trek movie ever made.
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Old May 15 2013, 05:46 PM   #2002
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Flake wrote: View Post
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The Enterprise was refitted at the end of the movie.
Yeah but it still looked the same.. Nothing new about how it looked externally..
Its got a giant impulse engine now, thats the only difference I noticed.
Which will look cool when the saucer separates in the next movie.

They're clearly happy with their Enterprise design. I am too
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Old May 15 2013, 05:51 PM   #2003
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I guess all you higher purposed plumbers know that Trek in to Darkness has been panned by both the NY Post and Daily News as being DUMB..!!
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Old May 15 2013, 06:01 PM   #2004
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I guess all you higher purposed plumbers know that Trek in to Darkness has been panned by both the NY Post and Daily News as being DUMB..!!
http://www.nypost.com/p/entertainmen...FbiJNWStAsDeJJ

http://www.nypost.com/p/entertainmen...zWW4E9uKZsJpfN
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Old May 15 2013, 06:05 PM   #2005
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Summary of New York Post review

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=02LgdXVkXgM
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Old May 15 2013, 06:22 PM   #2006
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I guess all you higher purposed plumbers know that Trek in to Darkness has been panned by both the NY Post and Daily News as being DUMB..!!
And it's been praised by several other reviewers for being smart. If you want, I can cherry pick those reviews for you as well, in the same manner as you've done.
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Old May 15 2013, 06:29 PM   #2007
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I guess all you higher purposed plumbers know that Trek in to Darkness has been panned by both the NY Post and Daily News as being DUMB..!!
So what? Movies are a subjective experience. I have enjoyed many movies the critics have panned.
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Old May 15 2013, 06:36 PM   #2008
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I guess all you higher purposed plumbers know that Trek in to Darkness has been panned by both the NY Post and Daily News as being DUMB..!!
http://www.nypost.com/p/entertainmen...FbiJNWStAsDeJJ

http://www.nypost.com/p/entertainmen...zWW4E9uKZsJpfN
And these are particularly important negative reviews because -- ?

There's a saying The Washington Post uses here to sell newspapers (their critic loved STID, by the way): If you don't get it, you don't get it. These reviews don't get it. STID is no different than the intelligently done but still sometimes campy TOS. The story is as deep as almost any TOS episode and prior movies. Marc Cushman is quoted as saying, "It's lost a lot of its reality." Reality? Huh? Explanation, please.

The NY Post review says that "surplus action and lack of creative commentary" is the biggest sticking point to purists. Not this purist. There are valid negative reviews out there, but any like NY Post's that hold Abrams's movies to a standard that is mythical to being with, well they just don't get it. Besides, who the hell walks out of a summer movie saying, "I wish there would've been less action and more sitting around conference tables discussing issues"?
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Old May 15 2013, 06:39 PM   #2009
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I guess all you higher purposed plumbers know that Trek in to Darkness has been panned by both the NY Post and Daily News as being DUMB..!!
http://www.nypost.com/p/entertainmen...FbiJNWStAsDeJJ

http://www.nypost.com/p/entertainmen...zWW4E9uKZsJpfN
And these are particularly important negative reviews because -- ?

There's a saying The Washington Post uses here to sell newspapers (their critic loved STID, by the way): If you don't get it, you don't get it. These reviews don't get it. STID is no different than the intelligently done but still sometimes campy TOS. The story is as deep as almost any TOS episode and prior movies. Marc Cushman is quoted as saying, "It's lost a lot of its reality." Reality? Huh? Explanation, please.

The NY Post review says that "surplus action and lack of creative commentary" is the biggest sticking point to purists. Not this purist. There are valid negative reviews out there, but any like NY Post's that hold Abrams's movies to a standard that is mythical to being with, well they just don't get it. Besides, who the hell walks out of a summer movie saying, "I wish there would've been less action and more sitting around conference tables discussing issues"?
Someone referenced some reviews but did not include links. I searched for the reviews and posted some links.
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Old May 15 2013, 06:43 PM   #2010
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A lot of reviews come down to the same complaints about it "not being Star Trek" which is absurd, none of the movies have truly been Star Trek if we compare to television.
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