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Old May 14 2013, 10:22 PM   #451
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Alphas with a budget and better production values, at least from the looks of it... I'll give it a look-see.
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Old May 14 2013, 10:38 PM   #452
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His powers are low-key enough to work on a TV budget too.
Then again, so are Luke Cage's, for what it's worth.
Right. So using Rage gives them a generic Luke Cage to do whatever they want with him, without the baggage of having to do him justice.
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Old May 14 2013, 11:57 PM   #453
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The latest theory I've heard is that he's Patriot from the Young Avengers, though I think that comes from taking his "I should carry a shield?" line too literally.

Personally, I'm not convinced he's going to be a comics character at all. I mean, nobody else on the show is.
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Old May 15 2013, 12:37 AM   #454
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Hmm, have to admit the whole "agents investigating mysterious, superpowered freaks" premise is kinda making it feel like just a generic rehash of Alphas, Warehouse 13, and Fringe.

Although I'm sure with enough of Whedon's trademark wit and humor in there it could still be pretty fun.
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Old May 15 2013, 12:56 AM   #455
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It is the opposite of 'Generic'. It is built off an existing and well known brand.

It has almost the whole Marvel universe to play with, even a lot of the stuff they can't use in movies.
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Old May 15 2013, 01:10 AM   #456
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^ That's the part that is exciting. Even though this will be self-contained from the MCU...there is still a whole entire rest of the Marvel Universe they can explore and use if they so wish. Start developing lesser known characters, etc. Maybe even incorporate elements like "AKA Jessica Jones" or even their proposed "Cloak and Dagger" series. This just opens up the Marvel Universe a bit more. I'm really excited for this.
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Old May 15 2013, 02:03 AM   #457
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What makes it different from something like Alphas or Fringe is that they're not afraid to use the word "superhero." It will be nice if this show draws as heavily on Marvel lore as Arrow or later-seasons Smallville have drawn on DC lore. Hopefully we'll get some significant supervillains too.
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Old May 15 2013, 02:05 AM   #458
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At least the ones Marvel Studios have the rights to.
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Old May 15 2013, 02:19 AM   #459
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I was very pleased with that 2:30 trailer for the show.

The fact that, from that promo, it sounds like an X-Files, Millennium, Fringe, W13 or Alphas is proof enough that this concept works. It's just got an already established universe of material from which to draw. Things will be new to most but the easter eggs for the faithful will be fun to find.

I'm rooting for Moon Knight, Mockingbird, Justice, Machine Man, Jessica Jones, Misty Knight to name a few that should the show go a few seasons could be seen in some story manner. A few Halloween themed episodes with say Jack Russell the Werwolf by Night, N'Kantu the Living Mummy or Manphibian anyone? Do I dare think Man-Thing?
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Isn't there an rights issue thing with Man-Thing? I'm not sure that Marvel Studios owns him.
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What makes it different from something like Alphas or Fringe is that they're not afraid to use the word "superhero."
Marvel and DC actually co-own the copyrights to the word "superhero".
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Isn't there an rights issue thing with Man-Thing? I'm not sure that Marvel Studios owns him.
Not that I'm aware of. Lionsgate(I think) did that horrid film that ended up airing as a Sci-Fi movie of the week but that was over 5yrs ago. Pretty sure he's fully back under the Marvel Studios banner.
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Perhaps I am thinking of Swamp Thing. I've always gotten the two of them confused!
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What makes it different from something like Alphas or Fringe is that they're not afraid to use the word "superhero."
Marvel and DC actually co-own the copyrights to the word "superhero".
No, they share a trademark, not a copyright. A copyright protects a literary or artistic work, while a trademark is a registered word, phrase, or symbol serving as an identifier for a distinct brand or product. What the trademark means is that nobody but Marvel and DC can use the phrase "super hero" or variations thereon in the title of a publication or product, or otherwise in a marketing context such as in an advertising slogan. But you can use it in the body of a work, as I was able to do in my novel Only Superhuman.

Here's a FAQ about it, and here's an article with more.
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