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Old May 14 2013, 06:45 PM   #31
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Re: Capitalisation of I

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Haha, that "rule" you were taught was never correct.

Large changes in the spelling conventions of the german language happened around 2000 (couple years earlier with a transition period), with some additional changes in the following years.
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Old May 14 2013, 06:54 PM   #32
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How new is this rule?
It's from the reform of the spelling reform. I am not 100% sure about the year but I believe it must have been around 2004.
I much prefer and still use the old spelling. For official papers I am to use the reformed spelling which is why I am fluent in both.

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Old May 14 2013, 07:42 PM   #33
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I forgot : whatever you see in the news today, it's not everyday like that.
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Old May 14 2013, 08:35 PM   #34
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Actually, a lot of nouns and other words are capitalized in the US Constitution that we don't normally capitalize today. I don't know what the style is called, for that.
I just call it archaic, and it's typical of the writing of the day. I kind of get a kick out of it and occasionally do it myself.

I wonder, does anybody dots i's and j's when they write or print? I can't remember ever actually doing that, except maybe in early grade school.
I have always dotted my i's and j's. To be honest I don't think I've seen someone not do it. The dots are so integral to those letters!
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Old May 14 2013, 08:38 PM   #35
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Yeah, my last German class was about 20 years ago and as i said, i really havent read or written a lot of German since then...
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Old May 14 2013, 09:01 PM   #36
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Spot's Meow wrote: View Post
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Actually, a lot of nouns and other words are capitalized in the US Constitution that we don't normally capitalize today. I don't know what the style is called, for that.
I just call it archaic, and it's typical of the writing of the day. I kind of get a kick out of it and occasionally do it myself.

I wonder, does anybody dots i's and j's when they write or print? I can't remember ever actually doing that, except maybe in early grade school.
I have always dotted my i's and j's. To be honest I don't think I've seen someone not do it. The dots are so integral to those letters!
Turkish actually has a dotted i and an undotted ı. The dotted İ is even dotted when capitalized.
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Old May 14 2013, 09:03 PM   #37
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Re: Capitalisation of I

Spot's Meow wrote: View Post
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Actually, a lot of nouns and other words are capitalized in the US Constitution that we don't normally capitalize today. I don't know what the style is called, for that.
I just call it archaic, and it's typical of the writing of the day. I kind of get a kick out of it and occasionally do it myself.

I wonder, does anybody dots i's and j's when they write or print? I can't remember ever actually doing that, except maybe in early grade school.
I have always dotted my i's and j's. To be honest I don't think I've seen someone not do it. The dots are so integral to those letters!
Indeed. I have never seen them without the dot.
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Old May 14 2013, 09:07 PM   #38
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I just call it archaic, and it's typical of the writing of the day. I kind of get a kick out of it and occasionally do it myself.

I wonder, does anybody dots i's and j's when they write or print? I can't remember ever actually doing that, except maybe in early grade school.
I have always dotted my i's and j's. To be honest I don't think I've seen someone not do it. The dots are so integral to those letters!
Turkish actually has a dotted i and an undotted ı. The dotted İ is even dotted when capitalized.
Now that's cool. I would love to have capitalized I's with dots.
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Old May 14 2013, 09:29 PM   #39
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My experience with people who don't dot their i's and j's is from when they write in cursive, when of course the pen generally stays down for the whole word, except to go back and dot i's and j's, cross t's and x's, or anything else I've forgotten to mention. I've seen people just skip all or part of that last step.

Why? I don't know. Maybe they're sloppy, in a rush, getting into the groove of letting their thoughts out, thinking it's perfectly legible without the extra effort, etc.
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Old May 15 2013, 09:59 AM   #40
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I never write in cursive, actually. The dots just seem pointless to me (no pun intended ). It's not that they slow me down when writing-- I'm not usually in a hurry. I just never even think about them. I'm surprised that a lot of people use them.
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Old May 15 2013, 11:15 AM   #41
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I always thought I put the tittles (the word for the dots!) but when I looked back over my writing I hardly ever do. I write in cursive so it looks like I just get to the end of the word and keep going. It makes sense because I principally write in lectures when I have to keep up my lecturer.
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Old May 15 2013, 12:28 PM   #42
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I just call it archaic, and it's typical of the writing of the day. I kind of get a kick out of it and occasionally do it myself.

I wonder, does anybody dots i's and j's when they write or print? I can't remember ever actually doing that, except maybe in early grade school.
I have always dotted my i's and j's. To be honest I don't think I've seen someone not do it. The dots are so integral to those letters!
Indeed. I have never seen them without the dot.
well an undotted i could be mistaken for a l (L).
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Old May 15 2013, 04:08 PM   #43
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French doesn't capitalise its formal you (vous). We're rude, never forget that !
Interestingly, it is not uncommon to capitalize you formal in Italian (Lei). I think the reason is that "lei" is also she, so it is done to distinguish the two.

If I'm not mistaken, Usted (Spanish you formal) is also capitalized, but I could be wrong. It might only be capitalized when abbreviated (Ud. for usted, Uds. for ustedes).
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Old May 16 2013, 05:42 AM   #44
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Re: Capitalisation of I

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I always thought I put the tittles (the word for the dots!) . . .
Heh-heh . . . tittles . . . heh-heh-heh . . .



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If I'm not mistaken, Usted (Spanish you formal) is also capitalized, but I could be wrong. It might only be capitalized when abbreviated (Ud. for usted, Uds. for ustedes).
That's how I learned it in high school. The formal pronoun usted is not capitalized when spelled out, but the abbreviation Ud. is capitalized.
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Old May 16 2013, 03:07 PM   #45
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OK, I couldn't remember to be sure. Now watch someone correct my Italian as well
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