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Old May 11 2013, 11:17 AM   #31
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So this is my question to those who have watched the movie, give me a reason why I should not miss Into Darkness?
No, in fact I'd prefer no one else go then I can have the Theatre to myself.
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Old May 11 2013, 12:45 PM   #32
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Well the showing I went to only had maybe 40 people in the screen. But then again it was an 00:05 showing.
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Old May 11 2013, 12:59 PM   #33
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Cool! Southwestern OH/Northwestern KY represent!
We're just considered Northern Kentucky. Don't confuse us with the Hill people!
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Old May 11 2013, 03:24 PM   #34
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I originally wrote this review for Letterboxd, but since it's essentially spoiler-free, I'll repost it here:

★★★ (out of 5)

Well, that was kind of underwhelming...

First, I should probably say that I've been a huge Star Trek fan since I was a child and that some of my frustrations with the film probably stem from its inconsistency with the lore and spirit of the Trek universe. I mean, those are hardly the movie's only problems, but I imagine someone unfamiliar with Star Trek beyond the 2009 movie might be much more forgiving of some of those flaws and be able to just lean back and enjoy the ride. Because the "ride" part is certainly the one thing this movie mostly excells at. The pacing is breathless, the visuals impressive, the actors charismatic, and the action often exciting, even as some of the action scenes, and indeed the entire structure of the film's plot, often feel like a mere rehash of its predecessor.

Despite greatly enjoying J.J. Abrams' first installment, I'll admit I went into the sequel with some reservations, due to some persistent rumors about the villain and to the marketing materials seemingly working very hard to downplay the "space adventure" element and the fact that this is, indeed, a Star Trek movie. It turns out at least some of those concerns were unfounded, as the parts with people in leather jackets running around planet surfaces shooting guns are much less prominent than I feared and the majority of the action does take place on starships in space, involving a lot of familiar characters and places. I was, however, right about the villain (or villains, as it turns out) being quite problematic. Without delving into spoilers, I think I can safely say that the movie has two major villains, one of them a personified jumble of convoluted conspiracy theories (not too surprising, given screenwriter Bob Orci's political views), the other a blurred cypher without any background information or clear motivations, whose menace only becomes apparent in the context of the story when it's spelled out by a wholly gratuitous cameo appearance. This lack of clear character motivations makes for a pretty convoluted story, that paradoxically still manages to remain utterly predictable at every turn.

You may wonder at this point why I still gave the movie an "above average" rating, when I clearly disliked so much about it. Well, as I hinted at in the beginning, I do think there is a lot to like about it on a technical level, and I do think that many non-Trekkies will probably enjoy it a lot more than I did. (Which is ironic, seeing that they worked so hard to shoehorn in quite a few contrived Trek references "for the fans.")
In fact, I think most everyone who worked on this movie did a pretty great job except for the screenwriters, which makes this the second year in a row where my biggest movie-related disappointment of the year was co-written by Damon Lindelof (although to be fair, the other two writers have been responsible for a fair number of clunkers over the years, as well). I'll probably rewatch the movie at least once to see if I can ignore its problems and just enjoy the more fun elements, but for now, I'm going to have to say it was mostly a letdown for me.
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Old May 11 2013, 09:17 PM   #35
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Cool! Southwestern OH/Northwestern KY represent!
We're just considered Northern Kentucky. Don't confuse us with the Hill people!
Sorry, you're stuck here with the rest of us.
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Old May 12 2013, 03:34 AM   #36
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To anyone whose read Countdown Into Darkness and seen the movie, would you say the events portrayed in CID were, (pick one) very relevant to the movie, somewhat relevant, not relevant at all?
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Old May 12 2013, 08:33 AM   #37
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^ One thing from the comic was sort of mentioned, but I don't even know if that would be enough to qualify as "somewhat relevant".
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Old May 12 2013, 10:26 AM   #38
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To anyone whose read Countdown Into Darkness and seen the movie, would you say the events portrayed in CID were, (pick one) very relevant to the movie, somewhat relevant, not relevant at all?
Not relevant at all. Ditto the videogame.
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Old May 12 2013, 07:09 PM   #39
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^ One thing from the comic was sort of mentioned, but I don't even know if that would be enough to qualify as "somewhat relevant".
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To anyone whose read Countdown Into Darkness and seen the movie, would you say the events portrayed in CID were, (pick one) very relevant to the movie, somewhat relevant, not relevant at all?
Not relevant at all. Ditto the videogame.
Welp, that's $40 down the shitter.

Thank you for responding, though.
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Old May 12 2013, 07:33 PM   #40
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Saw it for the second time, this time in the English original, and I made up my mind.

Thumps up!

I don't think you will be disappointed when you see it (at least twice)

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Old May 13 2013, 01:35 PM   #41
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^ One thing from the comic was sort of mentioned, but I don't even know if that would be enough to qualify as "somewhat relevant".
Yes there were
but none were particularly crucial.
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Old May 14 2013, 03:10 PM   #42
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Seems we have several people from the Cincinnati area on this board! I live up in Lebanon myself, which is only a few miles from Middletown. Like you, I'll be seeing STID at the AMC at Newport on the 15th!
I'm in the Columbus area, doing the regal double feature tomorrow ('09 movie starts at 9, I think?).

Part of me cannot wait. Another part is saying "hold up...once its over, it'll be 3 years until the next." So I'm trying to appreciate this period while it lasts. Watched Space Seed and TWOK last week. TSFS two nights ago. Parts of the Nemesis space battle yesterday. Feel like watching more ST tonight, though don't know what.

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Old May 14 2013, 03:22 PM   #43
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The Regal cinemas near me are doing a double feature of ST09 at 9:00 on Wednesday and STID at midnight...already got my tickets...and have warned my students that I might be a bit fatigued at school on Thursday...
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Old May 14 2013, 03:45 PM   #44
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The Regal cinemas near me are doing a double feature of ST09 at 9:00 on Wednesday and STID at midnight...already got my tickets...and have warned my students that I might be a bit fatigued at school on Thursday...
Yeah, I remember having a rough day at work after seeing the Dark Knight trilogy last year. With TDKR being almost 3 hours, didn't leave much time to sleep before work. I think I can probably be out of work early enough, though, to get in a nap before heading to the theater this time.

Do you know if both movies will be shown in 3D, or just STID?
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The Regal cinemas near me are doing a double feature of ST09 at 9:00 on Wednesday and STID at midnight...already got my tickets...and have warned my students that I might be a bit fatigued at school on Thursday...
Yeah, I remember having a rough day at work after seeing the Dark Knight trilogy last year. With TDKR being almost 3 hours, didn't leave much time to sleep before work. I think I can probably be out of work early enough, though, to get in a nap before heading to the theater this time.

Do you know if both movies will be shown in 3D, or just STID?
The theater told me that both will be in 2D...which is fine with me because I'd rather watch it the first time in 2D anyway...they are having multiple other screenings at midnight as well as the 3D IMAX fan screening too...but the novelty of getting to see them both back to back won out over the other showings...
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