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Old May 13 2013, 04:01 PM   #46
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I think it's more likely that the copies that went out will simply have been received by people who have no knowledge of/interest in DVD ripping and torrenting. No one who actually has legal authority is going to care enough even to threaten legal action over something like this. If they put the Gallifrey Base admins in charge, maybe...
Put Gallifrey Base admins in charge and half the fandom would be in shackles for even talking about the leak.

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Are we sure this was an accident and not part of the hyping up machine?
Generally the Hype-up machine wants to tease, not provide a way for full copies to be released onto the internet before the actual show.
Do we even know that there is a real leak?

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Have not seen the torrent out yet.
We might not - depends on number of people who received it - if it is low, how hard is to contact each of them and brace them with possible legal consequences?
It'd be a waste of time and money on their part, not to mention all but guaranteeing that a copy of the DVD made it into the wild.
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Old May 13 2013, 04:03 PM   #47
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Do we even know that there is a real leak?
One of the guys who claims to have it seems to have a long-standing history in Doctor Who fandom and he's posted video of him with the box - can't see how it would be faked.
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Old May 13 2013, 04:06 PM   #48
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Old May 13 2013, 04:12 PM   #49
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Do we even know that there is a real leak?
Leak isn't really the right word. Colossal cock-up perhaps?

Given that the copy we know about came from the BBC America shop, it would be pretty easy for them to verify if any had been shipped out.
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Old May 13 2013, 04:14 PM   #50
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Do we even know that there is a real leak?
Leak isn't really the right word. Colossal cock-up perhaps?

Given that the copy we know about came from the BBC America shop, it would be pretty easy for them to verify if any had been shipped out.
Or deliberate "blunder".
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Old May 13 2013, 04:29 PM   #51
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Or deliberate "blunder".
To what possible end? To piss off fans, generate negative publicity and drive the ratings down even further?
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Old May 13 2013, 05:05 PM   #52
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Do we even know that there is a real leak?
One of the guys who claims to have it seems to have a long-standing history in Doctor Who fandom and he's posted video of him with the box - can't see how it would be faked.
I might be cynical, but it's an awful lot of publicity - what if it's just a ruse and no copies were actually sent out ? A couple of photo's with a known fan who is in on it and there you go...
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Old May 13 2013, 05:10 PM   #53
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I might be cynical, but it's an awful lot of publicity - what if it's just a ruse and no copies were actually sent out ? A couple of photo's with a known fan who is in on it and there you go...
To what possible end? To piss off fans, generate negative publicity and drive the ratings down even further?
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Old May 13 2013, 05:12 PM   #54
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I might be cynical, but it's an awful lot of publicity - what if it's just a ruse and no copies were actually sent out ? A couple of photo's with a known fan who is in on it and there you go...
To what possible end? To piss off fans, generate negative publicity and drive the ratings down even further?
Plus BBC isn't legally allowed to play games like this and tell lies. Which means it would be down to BBC America playing the con, and I can't imagine any circumstance where they would think a con like this would be beneficial
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Old May 13 2013, 06:02 PM   #55
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I might be cynical, but it's an awful lot of publicity - what if it's just a ruse and no copies were actually sent out ? A couple of photo's with a known fan who is in on it and there you go...
To what possible end? To piss off fans, generate negative publicity and drive the ratings down even further?
Plus BBC isn't legally allowed to play games like this and tell lies. Which means it would be down to BBC America playing the con, and I can't imagine any circumstance where they would think a con like this would be beneficial
Well it's got people talking about the finale, for one. It's probably bumped up orders for the DVD sets, do to people thinking they're going to get it early. I can see some marketing manager coming up with this. And the BBC proper would end up with plausible deniability: "We didn't do it, some packer in the American warehouse fucked up...heads will roll!"
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Old May 13 2013, 06:13 PM   #56
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I think people need to cut back on the meth.
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Old May 13 2013, 06:24 PM   #57
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To what possible end? To piss off fans, generate negative publicity and drive the ratings down even further?
Plus BBC isn't legally allowed to play games like this and tell lies. Which means it would be down to BBC America playing the con, and I can't imagine any circumstance where they would think a con like this would be beneficial
Well it's got people talking about the finale, for one. It's probably bumped up orders for the DVD sets, do to people thinking they're going to get it early. I can see some marketing manager coming up with this. And the BCC proper would end up with plausible deniability: "We didn't do it, some packer in the American warehouse fucked up...heads will roll!"
I'm fairly confident this is legitimate fuck-up and not some convoluted ploy to generate hype/ratings. Fuck-ups happen, and are a reality of life. This sort of ploy would take quite a bit of planning, more than BBC or Moffat would consider necessary when they can just do their usual promos/interviews/clips/pictures and get fandom's blood pumping.

The lesson learned here is in the future to avoid this sort of thing happening again, don't release the DVD set so close to the finale's airdate.
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Old May 13 2013, 06:29 PM   #58
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Plus BBC isn't legally allowed to play games like this and tell lies. Which means it would be down to BBC America playing the con, and I can't imagine any circumstance where they would think a con like this would be beneficial
Well it's got people talking about the finale, for one. It's probably bumped up orders for the DVD sets, do to people thinking they're going to get it early. I can see some marketing manager coming up with this. And the BCC proper would end up with plausible deniability: "We didn't do it, some packer in the American warehouse fucked up...heads will roll!"
I'm fairly confident this is legitimate fuck-up and some convoluted ploy to generate hype/ratings. Fuck-ups happen, and are a reality of life. This sort of ploy would take quite a bit of planning, more than BBC or Moffat would consider necesary when they can just do their usual promos/interviews/clips/pictures and get fandom's blood pumping.

The lesson learned here is in the future to avoid this sort of thing happening again, don't release the DVD set so close to the finale's airdate.
It's a safe bet that is all that it is. But I tend to never rule out someone doing something stupid thinking it's a good marketing ideal.
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Old May 13 2013, 06:35 PM   #59
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Silence will fall



The guy that revealed he had his set released early has been directly contacted by the BBC


Just got a call from BBC America, essentially pleading with me not to release any information. That's really interesting. I really wasn't expecting that. He made it seem as though I'd be getting the copy today, but I got it early I guess. I expect more to be released today then.
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Old May 13 2013, 06:37 PM   #60
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I would have asked for some swag to keep quiet.
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