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Star Trek Movies XI+ Discuss J.J. Abrams' rebooted Star Trek here.

View Poll Results: Star Trek (2009) vs. Into Darkness
Star Trek (2009) is the best 14 16.28%
Into Darkness is the best 49 56.98%
Equally good 23 26.74%
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Old May 12 2013, 02:05 AM   #16
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Re: Poll: Star Trek (2009) vs Into Darkness (Spoilers)

Equally fanwankish and badly written, sadly. Pretty to look at but no depth. ST09 felt better maybe because it was new.
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Old May 12 2013, 10:54 AM   #17
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I liked both equally, but I reckon Into Darkness was better.

Honestly, 2009 had a better pacing to it and it felt fresher but was weighted down by some poor character judgement (by which I mean the villain was weak as all mighty hell).

Into Darkness had a better villain -Cumberbatch nailed it. I reckon he had far more depth than both of his predecessor although I don't think he nailed the revenge aspect I also don't really think that was the point of this literation of the character- this time it was more about family.

Family being said, the crew worked brilliantly as well and the Spock and Kirk scenes, especially when Kirk saves everyone was brilliantly acted.

I also really liked how they didn't kill Harrison at the end. That's a nice change from the standard blockbuster (Only other two I can think of like that was The Dark Knight and the Avengers).

Also, I love that Carol Marcus is part of the crew now. Really love that. The core crew needs at least another women and I'm so happy that's happening. I look forward to seeing her back.

I reckon the script in Into Darkness was a slightly a bit worse but that's mostly because they really upped the fanservice and I'd be lying if I said I didn't like it.

I'm a fan of good script work which is probably why I enjoyed both equally. Overall though I reckon Into Darkness was better simply for the acting and the character work.

Also, loved the empty getting blown to pieces at war, that was some beautiful work.

The Klingon looked awesome as well. Actually alien, well more alien. And it was nice to see that they're still suffering the Worf Effect. Getting their arse handed to them to prove just how badass the villain is. It wouldn't be Star Trek without it.
What he said.

Especially the fanservice was awesome...and the scene where Harrison kicks the crap out of those Klingons. I could watch that over and over.

In any case, well put, I agree with everything.
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Old May 12 2013, 11:09 AM   #18
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Re: Poll: Star Trek (2009) vs Into Darkness (Spoilers)

I disliked 2009 but felt that this one made attempts to address its problems. Aside from one badly misjudged scene and some wonky writing, STID was quite enjoyable.
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Old May 12 2013, 11:15 AM   #19
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Which is a clear case of YMVV. I found nothing wrong with the writing...or at least, it didn't bother me in the slightest.
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Old May 17 2013, 09:39 PM   #20
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Old May 17 2013, 09:41 PM   #21
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Re: Poll: Star Trek (2009) vs Into Darkness (Spoilers)

Not even a contest:

Star Trek 2009 3/5
Star Trek Into Darkness 8/5
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Re: Poll: Star Trek (2009) vs Into Darkness (Spoilers)

I thoroughly enjoyed both movies, and maybe it's a little too new in my head for me to give a completely objective opinion, but I have to say I enjoyed Star Trek Into Darkness more than Star Trek (2009), and since I loved the first movie, that's saying a lot.

For me, this movie has a bit better pacing, the characters are more well rounded, the further exploration of new world elements into the movie (we get to see a modern 23rd century city!) is refreshing, it has a fantastic villain who is multi-faceted and has a strong on screen presence, and some wonderfully funny moments along with a few very poignant scenes that just puts this movie over the top.
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Old May 17 2013, 10:16 PM   #23
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Into Darkness.
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Old May 17 2013, 10:22 PM   #24
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At the moment, equally well (I watched the 09 movie the day before seeing Into Darkness). Each does things I quite like, each has a few niggling things that could have been better (but no more than many, many other films that I've also enjoyed). I look forward to the next one.
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Re: Poll: Star Trek (2009) vs Into Darkness (Spoilers)

Deadlock right now. Repeat viewings will dictate.

Both are fantastic though.
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Old May 17 2013, 10:28 PM   #26
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Though I still hate the name!
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Re: Poll: Star Trek (2009) vs Into Darkness (Spoilers)

Both are fantastic Trek films and all-around science fiction and adventure stories, but I'd have to give the edge to Into Darkness. It had a few nits I could mention but I'm not going to bother, at least not in this thread.

Great, great flick. Worth every minute.
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Old May 17 2013, 10:57 PM   #28
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Into Darkness, in pretty much every category. Not that I disliked the '09 film, but it did have its weak points and Into Darkness improved significantly on most of them.
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Old May 17 2013, 11:07 PM   #29
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I voted STID. My reasons are above, but be warned, it's a bit spoilerish.
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Old May 18 2013, 11:20 AM   #30
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While I love both, I have to give the edge to Into Darkness. I just liked the story more.
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