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Old May 11 2013, 01:48 AM   #31
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Re: How Much Does JJ Abrams Know About Star Trek

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The next Trek director has to undergo an intense written exam, proving their Trek knowledge with answering questions involving the most obscure aspects of Trek lore and writing 100 word essays on a variety of topics.

I think the next director must be chosen in a big Star Trek convention.
Only those who appear in costume or with some kind of forehead/ear prosthetic and with an above average score in the Purity Test will have voting rights.
There's hope for some around here after all.
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Old May 11 2013, 02:01 AM   #32
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How much did Nick Meyer or Harve Bennett know about Star Trek when they made The Wrath of Khan, The Search for Spock?
They may not have known a lot up front, but they did the proper research. Go read the old interviews and they'll talk about how they went back and watched the show--a lot. They just didn't egotistically move forward with their vision without knowing what came before. Sure, they changed things, but they were mindful of what they were changing.
And Orci & Kurtzman watched the shows and one of them is a fan of Trek Lit. I don't think geek cred is a barometer of whether someone is capable of making a good movie.

John Logan was a big fan...
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Old May 11 2013, 08:35 AM   #33
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Abrams did his research, he saw all the TOS episodes and movies, and even read some of the novels.

STVI is an example of a did-not-do-research movie. The characters are treated awfully and the entire plot contradicts "Yesterday's Enterprise". If you've read co-writer Denny Martin Flynn's novel sequel The Fearful Summons you'll get an even better idea of how poor their grasp on the characters were.
He got the main characters right - it was only the minor characters who looked like fools
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Old May 12 2013, 05:54 AM   #34
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Since his version is the new continuity, he knows everything about it.
Bingo!
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The next Trek director has to undergo an intense written exam, proving their Trek knowledge with answering questions involving the most obscure aspects of Trek lore and writing 100 word essays on a variety of topics.

I think the next director must be chosen in a big Star Trek convention.
Only those who appear in costume or with some kind of forehead/ear prosthetic and with an above average score in the Purity Test will have voting rights.
There's hope for some around here after all.
Gene Roddenberry said it best, "If I listened to the fans, Star Trek would be sh!t." Proof positive that JJ Abrams did it right.
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Old May 12 2013, 05:56 AM   #35
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Re: How Much Does JJ Abrams Know About Star Trek

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Since his version is the new continuity, he knows everything about it.
Bingo!
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I think the next director must be chosen in a big Star Trek convention.
Only those who appear in costume or with some kind of forehead/ear prosthetic and with an above average score in the Purity Test will have voting rights.
There's hope for some around here after all.
Gene Roddenberry said it best, "If I listened to the fans, Star Trek would be sh!t." Proof positive that Nick Meyer did it right.
There, better ...
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Old May 12 2013, 06:10 AM   #36
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Re: How Much Does JJ Abrams Know About Star Trek

He knows enough to please this fan who's been enjoying Trek since 1966.
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Old May 12 2013, 11:48 AM   #37
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I think JJ knows enough and if he doesn't I'm sure he can ask one his best friends who are die hard trek fans Bryan Burke Oric and Kurtz Damon Lindorf ??
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Old May 12 2013, 01:58 PM   #38
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Since his version is the new continuity, he knows everything about it.
Bingo!
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There's hope for some around here after all.
Gene Roddenberry said it best, "If I listened to the fans, Star Trek would be sh!t." Proof positive that Nick Meyer did it right.
There, better ...
I agree, that is better.
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Old May 12 2013, 03:06 PM   #39
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Old May 12 2013, 03:13 PM   #40
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Am I the only one who read that with her accent in my mind?
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Old May 12 2013, 05:44 PM   #41
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Well, I might have read that in her accent if I knew who that is and how her accent is supposed to sound...
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Old May 12 2013, 05:47 PM   #42
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Not a Game of Thrones book/tv show fan then, I take it Mr Wormhole?
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Old May 12 2013, 06:16 PM   #43
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No, I'm not particularly into fantasy in general. There's no realism in wizards and fairies and all that crap.

Aliens, robots and FTL starships? Totally realistic.
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Old May 12 2013, 06:24 PM   #44
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The impression I get is that he watched TOS as a kid when he was too young to understand many of its nuances but he's watched the TOS movies more recently and enjoyed them because of the increased action quotient (and in fairness I think this is important in a movie as opposed to a series). The absence of Chapel and Rand but inclusion of Chekov lends some support to this.

His comprehension of how Starfleet should be organised or what its ideals were meant to represent seem to be very ropey. He seems to have only the most basic grasp of what level of tech existed in TOS or the butterfly effect of changing those parameters. He doesn't seem to understand the way Trek was based on naval tradition or why that mattered.

He seems happy to keep the women in their place though.
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Old May 12 2013, 06:49 PM   #45
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The impression I get is that he watched TOS as a kid when he was too young to understand many of its nuances but he's watched the TOS movies more recently and enjoyed them because of the increased action quotient (and in fairness I think this is important in a movie as opposed to a series). The absence of Chapel and Rand but inclusion of Chekov lends some support to this.

His comprehension of how Starfleet should be organised or what its ideals were meant to represent seem to be very ropey. He seems to have only the most basic grasp of what level of tech existed in TOS or the butterfly effect of changing those parameters. He doesn't seem to understand the way Trek was based on naval tradition or why that mattered.

He seems happy to keep the women in their place though.
Star Trek as a franchise has had numerous series and movies to establish what Trek is. JJ has only had 2 movies to do that.
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